No - sadly you can't. I also make wild assumptions when I see things I don't understand. But fortunately my friends will calmly correct my misguided adventures and life goes on. If they don't make the correction, in time I usually ferret out the facts... but during the find-a-solution phase, all bets are off.
Drones "Spying" on New Jersey.
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Keep in mind with all videos and images and their lack of quality.
Most people are using cell phones with small sensors. They take goo to incredible images and video in good lighting.
People are trying to take an image of a moving object in a black background at night, that has lights on it.
Your phone wants to bump up ISO making it grainy.
The lights on the UAP now make it hard to see detail on the UAP body.
Images will be incredibly tough.
But there are plenty of reliable sources from eyes on these UAP that can't be easily discounted. These range from military personell, police officers, drone pilots, pilots, etc. Ocean County Sheriff chased them and the USCG also saw them.
I know in today's age we need to see images and video, but keep in mind how hard the target is to photo or record on a cell phone.
For me, I was absolutely skeptical about these UAP.
A police sergeant in our drone program saw one with the moon in the the background and was able to say it was 100% a VTOL type drone, 2 to 3 blocks away and under 200 ft AGL.
I personally saw unexplained lights to the north of me that did not line up with any aircraft transmitting on ADSB and were flying very low at the same time he saw the drone. Another sergeant to the north of that area saw the same lights which were south of him.
I saw those lights in that general vicinity Thursday, Friday and Saturday night 6PM to 8 PM.
Its too far from me to say anything other than, I saw lights from something flying, low to the north of me. They flew back and forth, were very low and did not correspond to any aircraft on Flight Radar 24 or ADBS Xchange. For me the event that changed my view is the sergeant's personal sighting against the moon of a drone.
Unfortunately most people will have to go by other's accounts, most of the time stangers. I too would be skeptical.
Most people are using cell phones with small sensors. They take goo to incredible images and video in good lighting.
People are trying to take an image of a moving object in a black background at night, that has lights on it.
Your phone wants to bump up ISO making it grainy.
The lights on the UAP now make it hard to see detail on the UAP body.
Images will be incredibly tough.
But there are plenty of reliable sources from eyes on these UAP that can't be easily discounted. These range from military personell, police officers, drone pilots, pilots, etc. Ocean County Sheriff chased them and the USCG also saw them.
I know in today's age we need to see images and video, but keep in mind how hard the target is to photo or record on a cell phone.
For me, I was absolutely skeptical about these UAP.
A police sergeant in our drone program saw one with the moon in the the background and was able to say it was 100% a VTOL type drone, 2 to 3 blocks away and under 200 ft AGL.
I personally saw unexplained lights to the north of me that did not line up with any aircraft transmitting on ADSB and were flying very low at the same time he saw the drone. Another sergeant to the north of that area saw the same lights which were south of him.
I saw those lights in that general vicinity Thursday, Friday and Saturday night 6PM to 8 PM.
Its too far from me to say anything other than, I saw lights from something flying, low to the north of me. They flew back and forth, were very low and did not correspond to any aircraft on Flight Radar 24 or ADBS Xchange. For me the event that changed my view is the sergeant's personal sighting against the moon of a drone.
Unfortunately most people will have to go by other's accounts, most of the time stangers. I too would be skeptical.
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How about if he actually read the story he posted on his "civil attempt" ??
Who cares if drones are flying over NJ at night? If the officials that are in charge say that they are aware of any activity. And they say that they are not concerned. Then, by extension, I am not concerned.
I don't need others to know what I'm doing at every given minute when I'm operating UAS. So, in turn, I don't need to know what others are doing.
By all means, stress yourself out if you need to for some reason.
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Many reports are manned aircraft, and some are even stars according to some debunkers. Others are drones that are apparently of no concern according to the authorities. So, you have to decide if the authorities are lying, or, the activity is actually of no concern. I grant you, lying is not in short supply these days!
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Not stressed out at all. Just asking you to engage the community in a more civil manner, and abandon the name-calling.
That's not possible?
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Relating behavior to that of "chicken little" is probably more civil and kind than asking them to be less hysterical, for example.
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I'll never understand these wasteful meme or whatever posts of images and videos that are somehow supposed to convey meaning or be some form of communication. Can anyone translate this for me?
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The UAP uproar now has numerous small TFR's throughout central and northern NJ.
I post this so that forum members in our Garden State make sure you check for NOTAMS as these keep popping up.
Red circles.
There are options to operate in these TFRs per the NOTAMs given for them and I checked several, but not all and they read as:
[td]Operating Restrictions and Requirements[/td]
A. UAS OPS MAY BE AUTH WI THE DEFINED SSI AIRSPACE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RQMNTS LISTED BLW: 1) UAS OPS IN DCT SUPPORT OF AN ACT NTL DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTING, SAR, OR DISASTER RESPONSE MISSION; 2) UAS OPS IN SUPPORT OF EVENT OPS; 3) COMMERCIAL UAS OPS WITH A VALID STATEMENT OF WORK; 4) MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN APPROVED SPECIAL GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST(SGI) AIRSPACE WAIVER; 5) AND COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER APPLICABLE FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS.
B. UAS OPR IDENTIFIED IN A.1, A.2 OR A.3 ABV MUST APPLY FOR AN SGI WAIVER VIA EMAIL AT [email protected].
C. UAS OPR MUST HAVE AN APPROVED SGI COA FROM THE SYSTEM OPERATION SUPPORT CENTER (SOSC), TO CONDUCT UAS OPS WI THIS TFR. THE SOSC IS AVBL FOR CDN DLY FM 0700-2300 EASTERN, TEL 202-267-8276.
D. THE FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL ACFT OPR CK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPS WI THIS REGION.OPR MAY REVIEW THE TFR DETAILS ON THE INTERNET AT Federal Aviation Administration - Graphic TFR's OR Home. IF QUESTIONS REMAIN, CTC FSS, TEL 800-992-7433.
E. GENERAL PUBLIC AND MEDIA CONCERNS REGARDING THIS TFR SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO FAA PUBLIC AFFAIRS THROUGH THE WASHINGTON OPERATIONS CENTER AT 202-267-3333.[/td]
Fly safely and compliantly!
I post this so that forum members in our Garden State make sure you check for NOTAMS as these keep popping up.
Red circles.
There are options to operate in these TFRs per the NOTAMs given for them and I checked several, but not all and they read as:
[td]
[td]No UAS operations are authorized in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).[/td]
[td]EXC AS SPECIFIED BLW:Top
[/td]A. UAS OPS MAY BE AUTH WI THE DEFINED SSI AIRSPACE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RQMNTS LISTED BLW: 1) UAS OPS IN DCT SUPPORT OF AN ACT NTL DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTING, SAR, OR DISASTER RESPONSE MISSION; 2) UAS OPS IN SUPPORT OF EVENT OPS; 3) COMMERCIAL UAS OPS WITH A VALID STATEMENT OF WORK; 4) MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN APPROVED SPECIAL GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST(SGI) AIRSPACE WAIVER; 5) AND COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER APPLICABLE FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS.
B. UAS OPR IDENTIFIED IN A.1, A.2 OR A.3 ABV MUST APPLY FOR AN SGI WAIVER VIA EMAIL AT [email protected].
C. UAS OPR MUST HAVE AN APPROVED SGI COA FROM THE SYSTEM OPERATION SUPPORT CENTER (SOSC), TO CONDUCT UAS OPS WI THIS TFR. THE SOSC IS AVBL FOR CDN DLY FM 0700-2300 EASTERN, TEL 202-267-8276.
D. THE FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL ACFT OPR CK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPS WI THIS REGION.OPR MAY REVIEW THE TFR DETAILS ON THE INTERNET AT Federal Aviation Administration - Graphic TFR's OR Home. IF QUESTIONS REMAIN, CTC FSS, TEL 800-992-7433.
E. GENERAL PUBLIC AND MEDIA CONCERNS REGARDING THIS TFR SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO FAA PUBLIC AFFAIRS THROUGH THE WASHINGTON OPERATIONS CENTER AT 202-267-3333.[/td]
Fly safely and compliantly!
If NOTAMS don't stop imaginary drones, nothing will.
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Next, you will have to have your intended operation printed in the local newspaper at least 2 weeks prior to liftoff in addition to simply complying with FAA requirements. Fun times on the Eastern Seaboard!
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Drone Scanner app appears to have quite a few downloads compared to the others but it's hard to tell without direct stats. With all the recent events, I have not seen a bunch (only a few) news reports that mention how to download and use the various apps. If they do, they may find it doesn't work well and give up on it or else the app shows nothing because the "drone" is not transmitting.
In addition, the public still seems to believe the aircraft flight apps detect both airplanes *and* drones so they get alarmed when the objects they are looking at aren't being displayed.
In addition, the public still seems to believe the aircraft flight apps detect both airplanes *and* drones so they get alarmed when the objects they are looking at aren't being displayed.
I haven't been able to get either of the drone scanner apps to work on my phone.
Even with my drone right in front of them.
Even with my drone right in front of them.
But prior to the NOTAMS being issued, that was completely legal.
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