FAA should provide labels for drones

[ac0j]

Ok heres my opinion.

You get license plates for free here when you register your car. You get a pilots license on paper for free when you pass the test. You get a social security card on paper for free when you get a number.

The government gives out these free, they could give out the registration numbers for free too. The only reason why they probably dont, is because there are so many different drones out there, people will want custom colors, etc.

where is here?
In many states, after you buy a car, you go to the courthouse and pay sales tax, MV tax, license and registration fee's and THEN you get plates, Hardly free.
No drivers license is free here either. You even have to pay to renew those too.
Some states the car plates come on the car from the dealer, but the cost is built into the purchase price.
Social security cards are free either. Look at a paycheck stub sometime

 

[Former Member]

where is here?
In many states, after you buy a car, you go to the courthouse and pay sales tax, MV tax, license and registration fee's and THEN you get plates, Hardly free.
No drivers license is free here either. You even have to pay to renew those too.
Some states the car plates come on the car from the dealer, but the cost is built into the purchase price.
Social security cards are free either. Look at a paycheck stub sometime

Again, semantics. You can say that nothing in life is free, and there might be some truth to it. But not in this case.

After paying the FAA for a registration, they could include a sticker for free. You are not charged extra in Georgia for the paper sticker tag. You are not charged extra here for the laminated drivers license you receive.

 

[Former Member]

Lets throw another log on the fire. In states like Florida and Tennessee, there is no state individual income tax, but the state sales tax is higher to make up for it. So, no, there is no state income tax, but you are paying it anyway.

 

[Drone on]

Expecting the FAA to print and send you registration #'s? That's borderline silly.

What if you have multiple aircraft? You want the FAA to hold your hand and send you labels for every aircraft you own/operate?

If the FAA is already bogged down with processing sUAS waivers etc asking them to set up to print and mail registration labels is only going to make it even worse.

Yes. That's the idea.

It would be a simple program for them. They have the data. They have the network. They could knock it out in a week.

It would provide the uniformity and identification they seek, and being that they are the most interested, they should bare the burden; especially being that this is a matter of compliance of their creation.

I imagine the $5 registration fee had some margin that could easily cover this being that $5 was a rounded number; likely without any supportable calculation of administrative cost to support the number.

The whole idea of identifying the drone on the outside as being of any real help is ludicrous on multiple levels, so why stop there?

You want it? Use the money I've already given you to get it.

 

[ac0j]

LOL! Your $5 doesnt pay any FAA employees wage for the time it would take to log your information, let alone printing your .50 cent label and putting it into an envelope, and paying the postage to send it to your door. You want them to install it too? LOL! BIG SPENDER!

 

[Drone on]

While I like the ideas you present I’m not certain I want my tax money spent this way.
Though I will also suggest that this would be a solution to the whole drone identification number boondoggle, especially if drone manufacturers wer required to include a chip internally on all drones that let them show up to manned aircraft/air traffic controllers. This latter would shift at least part of the cost to drone purchasers as I feel it should be. I don’t want to spend extra money... just saying.

A lot of your various tax payments go to initiatives for which you receive no benefit. Why would you want to add to that through the purchase price of a drone when it is the whole village that benefits from the chip?

 

[Drone on]

LOL! Your $5 doesnt pay any FAA employees wage for the time it would take to log your information, let alone printing your .50 cent label and putting it into an envelope, and paying the postage to send it to your door. You want them to install it too? LOL! BIG SPENDER!

The registration is done through the internet. No one opens up an envelope and keys the data into the system. The labels would be printed automatically, and the subsequent mailing handled without postage expense (government postage - we already paid for it), or administrative labor.
I would doubt anyone ever touched it from beginning to end.

 

[Drone on]

Heck NO never ask the government to do something that anyone with common sense can do .
The very thought of asking the government to produce something as simple as a write on label let alone a specific ID type label is beyond comprehension

I have a vinyl cutter a very expensive vinyl cutter so I am covered but if i did not have such a fancy dancy machine i would have wandered down to my local Walmart and bought the simple items below and slapped them on my drone easy peasy. For the simple price of about $3.00 you can make 65 feet of FAA suitable labels and go nuts on every drone you could ever buy.
DON'T LET THE FAA GRAB ANY MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT WE CAN TOTALLY SCREW UP ALL BY OURSELVES
mikemoose55

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I asked for "65 feet of FAA suitable labels" for Christmas. No luck this year. I'll keep you posted

 

[ac0j]

I used my wifes Cricut , took me about 5 minutes to make my label. I used gold vinyl that matched the MP trim

 

[Former Member]

Brother Ptouch. 1 minute.

 

[Drone on]

I used my wifes Cricut , took me about 5 minutes to make my label. I used gold vinyl that matched the MP trim

Yes, and yours looks different from his, which looks different from hers, which looks different from theirs, and each of us has placed the label in different locations on the drone.

If I'm an emergency responder, I don't know what is what, where to look, or if I can trust any of it, so no gain...it's a bomb!

If the FAA is going to demand compliance, they need to define it, lead it and support it.

Turning this effort into a boutique of self expression is counter productive to what is otherwise a perfectly mindless cause.

BTW...I'm not politically charged.

 

[ac0j]

Yes, and yours looks different from his, which looks different from hers, which looks different from theirs, and each of us has placed the label in different locations on the drone.

If I'm an emergency responder, I don't know what is what, where to look, or if I can trust any of it, so no gain...it's a bomb!

If the FAA is going to demand compliance, they need to define it, lead it and support it.

Turning this effort into a boutique of self expression is counter productive to what is otherwise a perfectly mindless cause.

BTW...I'm not politically charged.

LOL!
you are correct, but I think the number displayed on the drone is only going to be needed for criminal cases. I dont expect anyone to drive up and randomly want to see your label. Its more for when a drone is "evidence" in some criminal matter. And I think that would be the only reason one would not want to label their aircraft.

 

[Drone on]

LOL!
you are correct, but I think the number displayed on the drone is only going to be needed for criminal cases. I dont expect anyone to drive up and randomly want to see your label. Its more for when a drone is "evidence" in some criminal matter. And I think that would be the only reason one would not want to label their aircraft.

Agreed.

However, if a person is going to commit a crime with a drone, then labeling the drone is in their best interest as it buys the creiminal time to evade authorities exhausting various possible combinations of numbers before realizing it's a bogus number.

Otherwise, until blockchain is implemented tying S/N with activation, and an after market sales trail (recorded by seller as administered by the FAA similar to the DMV), then not any of this data is reliable, so placing a label on my otherwise perfectly fine looking piece of flying plastic sets me off.

It's not the cost as I believe I have you all beat with my $0.05 worth of electrical tape.

I would be fine with it if I thought it added any genuine value.

I don't.

Therefore, FAA, you want it? Work for it. And, yes. That's how I really feel. Rant over. My apologies.

 

[tcope]

If you feel that the FAA should provide the sticker, simply offer to pay any one of the many companies that will provide you with a sticker. There are several on this forum that will do this. Otherwise, take a Sharpie (borrow if you don't have one or want to pay for one) and write your FAA reg number on the side of your Mavic.

I can think of bigger issues.

 

[Drone on]

If you feel that the FAA should provide the sticker, simply offer to pay any one of the many companies that will provide you with a sticker. There are several on this forum that will do this. Otherwise, take a Sharpie (borrow if you don't have one or want to pay for one) and write your FAA reg number on the side of your Mavic.

I can think of bigger issues.

How does this make sense?

 

[FLYBOYJ]

LOL!
you are correct, but I think the number displayed on the drone is only going to be needed for criminal cases. I dont expect anyone to drive up and randomly want to see your label. Its more for when a drone is "evidence" in some criminal matter. And I think that would be the only reason one would not want to label their aircraft.

Actually there are many towns (at least 3 in my state) who have implemented local ordinances dovetailing FAR 48 requirements. Local LE have approached people flying their drones asking to see exterior registration numbers. Last year I was approached by LE during a commercial real estate shoot. Although the cop was more interested in my drone (he owned a Phantom 3) he did comment that he was glad to see my drone properly identified. Englewood, Colorado.

 

[AMann]

Here's an idea.

If the FAA is interested in having registered drones display labels on the drone's exterior, the FAA should provide the labels.
They have the data base of registration to facilitate the program. The FAA mails the labels out with instructions as to exactly where they are to be placed. This would eliminate pilots 'accidentally' misrepresenting the registration number, and the uniformity of label appearance and location would help emergency personnel quickly identify the registrant.
To encourage adoption, the label could have a locator chip for pilots to recover lost drones; possibly through the to be revised B4Ufly app. The FAA and others knowing where are drones are in the air is inevitable, anyway, so...
The program would be funded by emergency agency budgets, and the FAA. Being that this is tax payer money, our annoyed neighbors would be paying for the program; unbeknownst to them.

It's a win, win.

They do provide the label for free, I just printed my registration email from them and cut out the number and taped it on the drone. Then I pulled it off because it looked tacky and scribbled it on with a sharpie.

 

[BigAl07]

They do provide the label for free, I just printed my registration email from them and cut out the number and taped it on the drone. Then I pulled it off because it looked tacky and scribbled it on with a sharpie.

Brilliant Best post I've seen today

 

[tcope]

How does this make sense?

It makes sense in that no other government agencies provides some type of registration for free. The FAA registration is $5 for 3 years. When the government provides more then the FAA does under the registration, the cost if _much_ higher. Personally, I'll take the 10 seconds to simply write the registration number on the drone rather then pay the FAA a huge fee for a sticker. If one or two people think they should be supplied a sticker... let _them_ pay that cost.

 

[Drone on]

They do provide the label for free, I just printed my registration email from them and cut out the number and taped it on the drone. Then I pulled it off because it looked tacky and scribbled it on with a sharpie.

that's funny