Skywatcher2001
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. . . now that's funny!!Sounds about like how the Vogons would handle things. "Resistance is futile..."
I would have coughed a bunch, and asked if they had any masks you could borrow to "protect" them.
. . . now that's funny!!Sounds about like how the Vogons would handle things. "Resistance is futile..."
I would have coughed a bunch, and asked if they had any masks you could borrow to "protect" them.
Scary. This is why traveling to other countries scares me. They don't all have the same rights and freedoms we have here in America
No they dont...Lots of countries have more rights and freedoms than America.
Why is it scary? Before going *anywhere* you should familiarise yourself with local laws and regulations, for drones and other non flying related areas.
It's not exactly hard to do in the internet era.
OP said he was flying near a military base and a museum. Go and fly near a US military base, and I guarantee you'll be held at gunpoint by the military, not the police.I agree. I said "they dont all". Many have less, some have more. You would never catch me bringing my drone to saudi arabia or north korea for example, im sure flying it around would be an instant death sentence after accused of spying.
Those are some extreme examples but you catch my drift I suppose. For example as American i know what our rights are, it's taught from birth. A foreign country, i can do research on the laws yes, but ill never understand them all and as a foreigner ill be treated differently than their own citizens who might be able to get away with more.
Like in the OP example. Im not saying the netherlands is a barbaric place with no rights, but if i can rest assured in america if i flew a drone in a museum i wouldn't have the military come arrest me with machine guns. Here in America its illegal for military to act as police.
Other countries.... Just do things differently. To me it can be scary. Maybe the dutch are used to being arrested by the miltary at gunpoint but personally that would traumatized me
Scary. This is why traveling to other countries scares me. They don't all have the same rights and freedoms we have here in America. I mean yeah the police can arrest you but the military isnt going to arrest you with machine guns. I'm glad everything ended up working out fairly good for you and I hope you find a way to get the drone back.
I assure you that the military can and will arrest people at gunpoint. They're called MP's. And if you were to spin up your drone on a US military base, they'd likely be doing the same thing to you that the Dutch military did to OP. And if you were a foreign tourist? You probably wouldn't get off as easy as OP did with the Dutch. Sounds like they were fairly reasonable, to be honest.
MPs police members of the military, not civilians. I suppose they could on a military base arrest if a civilian snuck in or something. It's called posse come at us.
I understand that op was technically in a "military base" but it also seems it was open to the public and a museum. I don't know of any active military bases that are also museums open to the public here. I'm not saying there isn't. Maybe pearl harbor?. Idk.
If the castle OP talking about actually an active military base or is it historic military base not used anymore? Because we do have ones exactly like that here, I live 10 miles from one and no the military doesn't patrol them, they don't even have police there just security guards.
it just seems to me extreme to have military with machine guns in a public museum performing policing duties that a security guard can do.
Sounds about like how the Vogons would handle things. "Resistance is futile..."
I would have coughed a bunch, and asked if they had any masks you could borrow to "protect" them.
That’s actually a US centric view that’s far from true. Many countries have the same if not more freedoms than US, and/or if you break rules, far lower consequences. Australia where I live is like that. Yep, you cannot get an AR15. But no matter where you are, smoking a joint straight outside a police station, whilst illegal, is not going to get you into gaol. But I would say in the US you are far more likely to face confusion over ‘jurisdiction’ and overlapping rules and law enforcement agencies. And likely without $$$ and a lawyer, whoever has the cash will own you. In many other countries, it’s one clear rule over the whole country, very clear and enforced not only by agencies but also the citizens who often assist to enforce rules as they feel part of making them. I’m going flying in Finland as soon as CV19 stuff is over, and have no fears at all - just read and inquire. Overall, the OP stuffed up, and got off with a warning. Likely the soldiers still have a chuckle now. No harm done, no one beaten, fined or in gaol, and life goes onScary. This is why traveling to other countries scares me. They don't all have the same rights and freedoms we have here in America. I mean yeah the police can arrest you but the military isnt going to arrest you with machine guns. I'm glad everything ended up working out fairly good for you and I hope you find a way to get the drone back.
I agree. The whole federal vs. state vs. local government laws thing can make things very confusing at times. It is kinda a double edged sword though. The benefit of it is that if you don't agree with the local laws you can move elsewhere to a state or town that has different laws. But it makes it a lot harder to keep track of and know all the laws. I think we should eliminate local laws and keep it to state and federal laws only. But that's never going to happen sadlyThat’s actually a US centric view that’s far from true. Many countries have the same if not more freedoms than US, and/or if you break rules, far lower consequences. Australia where I live is like that. Yep, you cannot get an AR15. But no matter where you are, smoking a joint straight outside a police station, whilst illegal, is not going to get you into gaol. But I would say in the US you are far more likely to face confusion over ‘jurisdiction’ and overlapping rules and law enforcement agencies. And likely without $$$ and a lawyer, whoever has the cash will own you. In many other countries, it’s one clear rule over the whole country, very clear and enforced not only by agencies but also the citizens who often assist to enforce rules as they feel part of making them. I’m going flying in Finland as soon as CV19 stuff is over, and have no fears at all - just read and inquire. Overall, the OP stuffed up, and got off with a warning. Likely the soldiers still have a chuckle now. No harm done, no one beaten, fined or in gaol, and life goes on
But. Avoid flying in Iran
My former colleague who is Iranian said that it’s extremely safe country for traveling.That’s actually a US centric view that’s far from true. Many countries have the same if not more freedoms than US, and/or if you break rules, far lower consequences. Australia where I live is like that. Yep, you cannot get an AR15. But no matter where you are, smoking a joint straight outside a police station, whilst illegal, is not going to get you into gaol. But I would say in the US you are far more likely to face confusion over ‘jurisdiction’ and overlapping rules and law enforcement agencies. And likely without $$$ and a lawyer, whoever has the cash will own you. In many other countries, it’s one clear rule over the whole country, very clear and enforced not only by agencies but also the citizens who often assist to enforce rules as they feel part of making them. I’m going flying in Finland as soon as CV19 stuff is over, and have no fears at all - just read and inquire. Overall, the OP stuffed up, and got off with a warning. Likely the soldiers still have a chuckle now. No harm done, no one beaten, fined or in gaol, and life goes on
But. Avoid flying in Iran