Grand Canyon - Mavic PRO

Jimmy007 · Nov 18, 2018

This was a wonderful trip. The views are amazing.

sar104 · Nov 18, 2018

Nice video and spectacular scenery, of course. I guess you are safe from NPS LE action if they don't catch you at the time.

EDIT: Or maybe not....

Y’stone investigates drone photo of Grand Prismatic

Jimmy007 · Nov 18, 2018

sar104 said:
Nice video and spectacular scenery, of course. I guess you are safe from NPS LE action if they don't catch you at the time.

EDIT: Or maybe not....

Y’stone investigates drone photo of Grand Prismatic

I flew outside of the park. Thanks for the comment

ac0j · Nov 18, 2018

*PAGING THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE....* LOL!
If he gets fined for this, and he has to be pretty dim if he doesnt know that, and someone gets the fine money as a result of this flight, technically, this should have been a part 107 flight? LOL!

Jimmy007 · Nov 18, 2018

ac0j said:
*PAGING THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE....* LOL!
If he gets fined for this, and he has to be pretty dim if he doesnt know that, and someone gets the fine money as a result of this flight, technically, this should have been a part 107 flight? LOL!

I flew outside of the park. Thanks for the comment

Starz · Nov 18, 2018

Watch button pushed
The shot at 2:40 is not ac?

ac0j · Nov 18, 2018

Jimmy007 said:
I flew outside of the park. Thanks for the comment

Can you show me on a map where anywhere on the grand canyon is NOT an NFZ?

sar104 · Nov 18, 2018

Jimmy007 said:
I flew outside of the park. Thanks for the comment

If you say so. The view at 3:30 of Plateau Point was shot from above Yavapai Point, which is 3.6 miles from the nearest park boundary, and nearly 6 miles from the nearest road access point outside the park. You either violated NPS law or FAA law.

JDawg · Nov 18, 2018

Jimmy doesn't know who he is dealing with...

YaSureOK · Nov 18, 2018

Beautiful video. I was at the Grand Canyon last week and used Airmap to see where I could fly. The whole park was red (NFZ) so I kept the drone in the bag.
Thanks for straightening me out on this as now I know that I can ignore the Airmap warnings as long as I launch outside the the park boundary. Good information to pass along in this forum.
What a great country.

sar104 · Nov 18, 2018

JDawg said:
Jimmy doesn't know who he is dealing with...

I enjoyed the video. I was less thrilled that that OP thinks we are stupid.

sar104 · Nov 18, 2018

YaSureOK said:
Beautiful video. I was at the Grand Canyon last week and used Airmap to see where I could fly. The whole park was red (NFZ) so I kept the drone in the bag.
Thanks for straightening me out on this as now I know that I can ignore the Airmap warnings as long as I launch outside the the park boundary. Good information to pass along in this forum.
What a great country.

It's a strategy that is completely legal provided that you can follow the other requirements, specifically VLOS. That's possible from a couple of viewpoints along the south rim to the east, but not in the vicinity of GC Village - the boundary is too far south.

There is an added complexity at the Grand Canyon that the area in question is defined by the FAA as a flight free zone below 14,500 ft MSL. I haven't seen any definitive statements on whether that applies to recreational UAV flight, but I suspect it does.

ac0j · Nov 18, 2018

sar104 said:
It's a strategy that is completely legal provided that you can follow the other requirements, specifically VLOS. That's possible from a couple of viewpoints along the south rim to the east, but not in the vicinity of GC Village - the boundary is too far south.

There is an added complexity at the Grand Canyon that the area in question is defined by the FAA as a flight free zone below 14,500 ft MSL. I haven't seen any definitive statements on whether that applies to recreational UAV flight, but I suspect it does.

I was told the entire river was an NFZ in another forum. I have not checked to see for sure, because I have no intention of going there and flying a drone.

ac0j · Nov 18, 2018

sar104 said:
If you say so. The view at 3:30 of Plateau Point was shot from above Yavapai Point, which is 3.6 miles from the nearest park boundary, and nearly 6 miles from the nearest road access point outside the park. You either violated NPS law or FAA law.

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The view at 2:40 is definitely showing the viewing platform in the park.

sar104 · Nov 18, 2018

ac0j said:
I was told the entire river was an NFZ in another forum. I have not checked to see for sure, because I have no intention of going there and flying a drone.

NFZs do not exist in law. They are informational in such things as Airmap, and firmware restrictions in DJI parlance.

sar104 · Nov 18, 2018

ac0j said:
The view at 2:40 is definitely showing the viewing platform in the park.

That alone doesn't prove that the OP didn't fly to that location from outside the park, even though it's completely obvious that he didn't.

jeplane · Nov 18, 2018

Jimmy007 said:
I flew outside of the park. Thanks for the comment

Bull****!

Jimmy007 · Nov 19, 2018

lol.... guys... the drone footage was from outside the park. I did not fly inside at all. Handheld camera/gimbal on the inside. Thanks for watching.

sar104 · Nov 19, 2018

Jimmy007 said:
lol.... guys... the drone footage was from outside the park. I did not fly inside at all. Handheld camera/gimbal on the inside. Thanks for watching.

Ah - on closer inspection those locations are just pan shots. Nice work, and I apologize for assuming that it was all drone footage.

Jackcutrone · Nov 19, 2018

sar104 said:
NFZs do not exist in law. They are informational in such things as Airmap, and firmware restrictions in DJI parlance.

NFZ is shorthand for an area where you are not permitted to fly by FAA refs and designations. AirMap and DJI might not be 100% accurate but if you think they don’t exist go try to land your drone on the White House lawn. - just speaking rhetorically.