Grand Canyon - Mavic PRO

[JDawg]

lol.... guys... the drone footage was from outside the park. I did not fly inside at all. Handheld camera/gimbal on the inside. Thanks for watching.

Well done. That is a very nice video.

 

[sar104]

NFZ is shorthand for an area where you are not permitted to fly by FAA refs and designations. AirMap and DJI might not be 100% accurate but if you think they don’t exist go try to land your drone on the White House lawn. - just speaking rhetorically.

I know perfectly well what NFZ is and means, and you completely misunderstood my point. Airmap is just providing advisories. For example, in the case of the Grand Canyon, it simply says "Do not fly over National Parks". You might take that to mean it's a NFZ, but that's not FAA law or regulation - you can fly over National Parks in general, even though you cannot take off or land in them. In the case of Grand Canyon National Park there are several designated flight-free zones up to 14,500 ft MSL, in which flight of any kind is prohibited by a different FAA regulation, but Airmap doesn't even mention those. DC is covered by a TFR, and Airmap states that explicitly.

 

[theDRONEranger]

NFZs do not exist in law. They are informational in such things as Airmap, and firmware restrictions in DJI parlance.

So, it is legal to fly in Washington, DC then?

 

[sar104]

So, it is legal to fly in Washington, DC then?

No - read post #22. In some places that Airmap advises not to fly it is not illegal, and in others it is. DC and parts of GCNP fall into the latter category.

 

[Wipster]

Nice video and spectacular scenery, of course. I guess you are safe from NPS LE action if they don't catch you at the time.

EDIT: Or maybe not....

Y’stone investigates drone photo of Grand Prismatic

Very nice and very illegal.

 

[ac0j]

lol.... guys... the drone footage was from outside the park. I did not fly inside at all. Handheld camera/gimbal on the inside. Thanks for watching.

LOL!!! Nice try. Love the video by the way, but one only needs to watch the first 10 seconds to know that is NO WAY that was done with a hand held gimbal

 

[sar104]

Very nice and very illegal.

Well maybe not. The OP says that the shots that are clearly well inside the park were taken handheld with a gimbal, while the side canyon shots were from outside the actual park.

 

[sar104]

LOL!!! Nice try. Love the video by the way, but one only needs to watch the first 10 seconds to know that is NO WAY that was done with a hand held gimbal

He's referring to the views from Yavapai point (around 3:30), which are the only ones obviously (at least to me) taken from inside the park.

 

[Aegis UAV]

Nice footage and post-p, Jimmy. Thank you for sharing.

To the critics: Are you trying to provide "supportive" feedback regarding regulations or throw a fellow drone operator under the bus? Pointing out the possibility of an FAA/ NPS airspace violation is important. In this case, perhaps private message would have been a more supportive method once the initial observation had been made.

 

[ac0j]

Nice footage and post-p, Jimmy. Thank you for sharing.

To the critics: Are you trying to provide "supportive" feedback regarding regulations or throw a fellow drone operator under the bus? Pointing out the possibility of an FAA/ NPS airspace violation is important. In this case, perhaps private message would have been a more supportive method once the initial observation had been made.

Is that your perspective on all criminal activity like shop lifting and such? Or just drones in general?

 

[ChallengerPilot]

How about murder?

Is that your perspective on all criminal activity like shop lifting and such? Or just drones in general?

 

[ChallengerPilot]

Did you ask the tribe that owns that land if it was cool?

 

[tcope]

I was told the entire river was an NFZ in another forum. I have not checked to see for sure, because I have no intention of going there and flying a drone.

NFZ and not being permitted to launch, land or operate within a NP are two _completely_ different things.

 

[tcope]

Nice footage and post-p, Jimmy. Thank you for sharing.

To the critics: Are you trying to provide "supportive" feedback regarding regulations or throw a fellow drone operator under the bus? Pointing out the possibility of an FAA/ NPS airspace violation is important. In this case, perhaps private message would have been a more supportive method once the initial observation had been made.

Not saying it applies in this case but that would educate _one_ person. Posting publicly educates everyone who reads it now and in the future.

 

[tcope]

How about murder?

That is only "legal" in Yellowstone.

 

[ac0j]

NFZ and not being permitted to launch, land or operate within a NP are two _completely_ different things.

BOTH being against the regulations and subject to fines. IF the river (that resides in the bottom of the canyon) IS an NFZ then the FAA can get involved?.

 

[sar104]

BOTH being against the regulations and subject to fines. IF the river (that resides in the bottom of the canyon) IS an NFZ then the FAA can get involved?.

There is no such thing, in FAA terms, as a NFZ.

 

[ac0j]

There is no such thing, in FAA terms, as a NFZ.

again, I got the river being an NFZ from another forum. There was a map shown there with red blocks all along the length of the canyon over the river all the way to bulhead(?)city. (not sure that was the city name) There was a different style of markings over the Nation Park areas of the Canyon. (that is practically all of the canyon)
I have been trying to rediscover that but for the life of me I cant find it again.
I am trying to post "citations" with everything I post to keep you soothed.

 

[macfawlty]

Ya know, people on this forum can be pretty mean spirited. I get the concern for unscrupulous pilots flying illegally and unsafely, but perhaps we can all agree to resist the urge to play high and mighty, castigating and name calling. IOW, be nice.

 

[maven4336]

Nice video and spectacular scenery, of course. I guess you are safe from NPS LE action if they don't catch you at the time.

EDIT: Or maybe not....

Y’stone investigates drone photo of Grand Prismatic

Dad just ridiculous the way this world is coming too with humans used to be a free country now it’s all about money and greed