If you want to have "fun"...take a look what is coming...

[frankiez]

I for one, will be happy to jump ship and use a quadcopter from one of their competitors but I will be happy to give them a piece of my mind.

I didnt buy my UAS so that I would have to go way out in the country to fly it. If they are going to require a cell data connection, than the chances of me having that connection way out in the country is slim to none.

Theres a point where they are gonna go too far.

 

[Egika]

It makes no sense to argue with unproven information and draw conclusions from speculation...

 

[bakerboy]

I think the density of morons over here is similar to every other place in the world...

Seen plenty of evidence to the contrary

 

[Egika]

Come on stop this racist behavior. Whatever country you are from, I am able to tell similar stories about it for sure...

BTT

 

[dewster]

I for one, will be happy to jump ship and use a quadcopter from one of their competitors but I will be happy to give them a piece of my mind.

I didnt buy my UAS so that I would have to go way out in the country to fly it. If they are going to require a cell data connection, than the chances of me having that connection way out in the country is slim to none.

Theres a point where they are gonna go too far.

So true. That requirement for having a live connection is nonsense. Sign in to fly?? There goes those vacation shots in areas of no cell phone reception. "I can't fly because I don't have phone service" DJI needs to roll that one back.

 

[Egika]

So true. That requirement for having a live connection is nonsense. Sign in to fly?? There goes those vacation shots in areas of no cell phone reception. "I can't fly because I don't have phone service" DJI needs to roll that one back.

Please get yourself some facts before ranting. You sign into the app once. Then fly wherever you want with or without cell phone reception. Even in China

 

[frankiez]

Please get yourself some facts before ranting. You sign into the app once. Then fly wherever you want with or without cell phone reception. Even in China

So tell me, have u upgraded to .800? If so, will it let me fly in NFZ's that it currently will let me unlock? Those areas that I currently can just acknowledge that I am in a controlled area and take full responsibility for my flight and actions, do they remain as is? Or will DJI completely deny me access to fly?

 

[syke]

So tell me, have u upgraded to .800? If so, will it let me fly in NFZ's that it currently will let me unlock? Those areas that I currently can just acknowledge that I am in a controlled area and take full responsibility for my flight and actions, do they remain as is? Or will DJI completely deny me access to fly?

It doesn't matter if you are in 0.6, 0.7 or 0.8 (I do not know about 0.4 or 0.5 as mine came with FW 0.6), the NFZs in China gets updated with the latest restrictions. I was still getting locked out of the updated areas even on the older FW. The moment I turned the MP on, there was a message saying NFZ in this locality had been updated. You don't have to be on 0.8 inorder for this to be in effect. In my experience, it happened to all FW.

The difference... Is that once connected online. I was required to verify my account with a China only phone number. Obviously I didn't have a local number. I had to disconnect from the Wi-Fi as it was tracing my location. Fortunately, I had a Hong Kong SIM card that allowed me to VPN back to Hong Kong. That was the only way I could proceed with the DJI Go 4 app. Everytime I tried to access the app with the Wi-Fi on, there will be a trigger for me to verify my account.

 

[syke]

In other words, staying on 0.4 is going to be futile, if NFZs can be pushed to all FWs.

 

[Egika]

If you have a device that is always offline, then nothing can be pushed onto it...

 

[SkunkWerx's]

It doesn't matter if you are in 0.6, 0.7 or 0.8 (I do not know about 0.4 or 0.5 as mine came with FW 0.6), the NFZs in China gets updated with the latest restrictions. I was still getting locked out of the updated areas even on the older FW. The moment I turned the MP on, there was a message saying NFZ in this locality had been updated. You don't have to be on 0.8 inorder for this to be in effect. In my experience, it happened to all FW.

The difference... Is that once connected online. I was required to verify my account with a China only phone number. Obviously I didn't have a local number. I had to disconnect from the Wi-Fi as it was tracing my location. Fortunately, I had a Hong Kong SIM card that allowed me to VPN back to Hong Kong. That was the only way I could proceed with the DJI Go 4 app. Everytime I tried to access the app with the Wi-Fi on, there will be a trigger for me to verify my account.

Your talking about the software (GO4 app) telling you about an update to the NFZ not the FW ----- what version GO4 are you on ?

 

[SkunkWerx's]

In other words, staying on 0.4 is going to be futile, if NFZs can be pushed to all FWs.

No it can not be pushed to all the FW's

 

[syke]

If you have a device that is always offline, then nothing can be pushed onto it...

In theory yes, provided the latest FW you are updating to, does not come pre-packaged with the updated NFZ. However, I believe it won't be, as it doesn't make much sense to.

You would however need to download the maps into your device, and downloading them means being online. Being online means DJI can push the updates directly to your app. So staying on an older firmware just to avoid the NFZ restrictions is going to be pretty much useless. If you are not meant to fly in that area, just accept it. The airspace does not belong to you alone. Go ahead and upgrade your FW, it is not going to make much of a difference when the time comes.

 

[syke]

No it can not be pushed to all the FW's

Maybe not in the case for users in the US. But in China, it was for me.

 

[syke]

 

[SkunkWerx's]

Syke , I'm not looking to argue with you and yes it is true what you say if you did upgrade to the latest FW and App
However if you downgrade and use a firewall to block any updates to the app you'll be good to go -- DJI can not update your FW without your acceptance otherwise it will be a forced issue that will lead to legal issues for sure
People that are downgrading there FW are also downgrading there GO4 app too to where the NFZ issues are not an issue
For the following simple reasons :
1 -- The downgraded FW does not have the structure to run the NFZ info
2 -- The downgraded GO4 app was never written with the NFZ
3 -- if you block all updates to the Go4 app with a noRoot firewall you will fly as B4 all the NFZ crap started

 

[syke]

Your talking about the software (GO4 app) telling you about an update to the NFZ not the FW ----- what version GO4 are you on ?

Yes you are right SkunkWerx. The app not firmware.

Currently I am on the latest version.

 

[SkunkWerx's]

Skye , Yes maybe in China only but here in the US this is what is being done to prevent what you are dealing with now
PS I didn't realize you were in China sorry for my misunderstanding

 

[syke]

Syke , I'm not looking to argue with you and yes it is true what you say if you did upgrade to the latest FW and App
However if you downgrade and use a firewall to block any updates to the app you'll be good to go -- DJI can not update your FW without your acceptance otherwise it will be a forced issue that will lead to legal issues for sure
People that are downgrading there FW are also downgrading there GO4 app too to where the NFZ issues are not an issue
For the following simple reasons :
1 -- The downgraded FW does not have the structure to run the NFZ info
2 -- The downgraded GO4 app was never written with the NFZ
3 -- if you block all updates to the Go4 app with a noRoot firewall you will fly as B4 all the NFZ crap started

No, it's not an argument. It is just a sharing of experiences.

Yes however you are right. A user outside of China will not be experiencing this. I did not get this when I am in Hong Kong. But in China I do. So in theory it can be done. Whether it will be done for users outside of China is a separate topic altogether which is not the discussion we are having in this thread.

Why I am so sure? It is because I did see the NFZ expand to a much bigger area overnight on the last app version.

There are comments here that people are holding out on updates thinking the restrictions will not change. But it possible, at least on a theoretical level. That is the point of my message.

 

[SkunkWerx's]

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China seems to be more controlling then the US --- I'm not knocking your country it's just the law of the lands that we live in
If your unhappy with what is happening I hope you guys find a way around it --- it's sad when your unable to Honesty enjoy yourself
while doing something you enjoy