I forgot to mention the one BAD experience in the park. I had gotten some big head tracking goggles, but no DGI GO info was shown anywhere. So I was letting people try the goggles, and flying strictly by LOS, and it's not really my strong point, so I stayed very close, an inadvertently spent to much time over this one house. She didn't realize the view from the air was a sea of mobile homes. To even see hers, you'd have to Gimble the camera straight down. But she thought her privacy wss being violated, and came over, and if alone, I would have schmoozed her, for the sake of the hobby, plus I'm generally nice. But the 4 people I was instantly ganged up on her. With my sister using her golden tongue, "We've seen you naked, and you're ugly!" I asked if she wanted to see through the goggles, which would have defused the situation, but it was too late. My sister did feel bad, and walking around the park, saw her during a family get together and apologized. She ssid we weren't even aware of her house but should have been polite, and addressed her concerns. Then she said I'm sorry I said we saw you naked. Her family loved it and howled with laughter, and my sister said she was really nice.
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I forgot to mention the one BAD experience in the park. I had gotten some big head tracking goggles, but no DGI GO info was shown anywhere. So I was letting people try the goggles, and flying strictly by LOS, and it's not really my strong point, so I stayed very close, an inadvertently spent to much time over this one house. She didn't realize the view from the air was a sea of mobile homes. To even see hers, you'd have to Gimble the camera straight down. But she thought her privacy wss being violated, and came over, and if alone, I would have schmoozed her, for the sake of the hobby, plus I'm generally nice. But the 4 people I was instantly ganged up on her. With my sister using her golden tongue, "We've seen you naked, and you're ugly!" I asked if she wanted to see through the goggles, which would have defused the situation, but it was too late. My sister did feel bad, and walking around the park, saw her during a family get together and apologized. She ssid we weren't even aware of her house but should have been polite, and addressed her concerns. Then she said I'm sorry I said we saw you naked. Her family loved it and howled with laughter, and my sister said she was really nice.
Vilco
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Yesterday I was in an abandoned quarry, a very quiet place, and I could hear my Mavic while it was 220 meters over, and that's more than 600 f
I was a teen in Germany and they have a large Turkish working population. Not to paint with too broad a brush but most of the Turks I bumped into were *extremely* protective to the point of belligerence. I saw a knife fight once because a guy thought another guy blowing smoke rings was some sort of come on to his wife/girl.
so, nothing like the Turks (gastarbeiter) I was around at all. Consider yourself blessed.
Well, I can’t blame you for what you had witnessed and experienced throughout your stay in Germany. Turks can be aggressive time to time but not all of them.
The ones who live in Germany are usually degenerated to a point which they lose their Turkish cultural values and heritage at the same time fail to adapt the civilized values of the west. They hang somewhere in between like a purgatory.
I had an actual fight with one of those German-Turks who came to Turkey for vacation. He started to insult my father because he claimed our summerhouse was causing water damage to their summerhouse and we claimed it wasn’t our fault. I told the guy to watch his mouth after that he totally freaked out and threw empty threats to me yelling. I told him to shut the ( mod removed ) up and he backed down until his brother in law ( 2 meters tall big guy) came into the argument and suddenly punched me in the face breaking my sunglasses. I fought back but it was two to one and one of them was a big fella. I got punched and had few kicks on my legs with bruises until I ran to my car grabbed my pepper spray along with my electro shock device and ( mod removed ) the big fella up. Then I called the military police on them and they were pulled to the station. Both of them had double citizenship (Turkish and German) and they were military service run aways. Every Turkish male citizen is required to go to military and serve for a time. They failed to postpone or report I don’t know exactly what and I don’t care about their problem but in the end they were in custody for running away from the service and the last time I saw their face, they turned white because of the fear.( mod removed ) what they are. So I get your point...
But
You shouldn’t generalize Turkish people into this. Most of Turkish people you can find in Turkey are hard working and honest people who will not brother you unless you intentionally provoke them into conflict.
There’s so many hatred toward Turkish heritage and people because of historical incidents and grudges. I can sense the sarcasm in your tone and I hope it’s not because of historical grudge and hatred but a bad experience you had back in Germany. Turkey is a beautiful country where you can meet many nice people who can share their soul with you.
The bottom line is that Turkey and Turks aren’t like the ones you find in Germany. Again, ordinary people just mind their own business here and will not attack you unless you provoke them, just like in the states...
I hope your next interaction with Turks would be a pleasurable one and fix your outlook over Turks and Turkish heritage. I’m sorry that you had a bad experience but you shouldn’t judge a book by just looking at its cover.
Bad people are bad not because of their background but how they were raised and cultured. Being a Turk has nothing to do with it...
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Ease up there buddy - you're reading far far too much into what I said and sarcasm dang sure wasn't in there. I explicitly stated "not to paint with too broad a brush" menaing I know this isn't indicative of all Turkish people. I detailed what I had experience with and ended with - "consider yourself blessed" - pretty much meaning I'm glad your experiences have been different. I also explicitly detailed my experiences were with "gastarbeiter" - Guest Workers as they are known in German. They still call them this in spite of the fact that many are several generations German born.
I dunno what the heck is going on with people online getting tense over trivialities. Put away your social justice outrage and pay attention to what I said.
PS: I could argue that Turkish culture usually means the general population and is in fact a part of how they are raised.
I dunno what the heck is going on with people online getting tense over trivialities. Put away your social justice outrage and pay attention to what I said.
PS: I could argue that Turkish culture usually means the general population and is in fact a part of how they are raised.
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I don’t think I’m the one who is tense here but you with your response stating that I far far read much into it sir. I’m not looking for an argument or any kind of discussion involving hatred and trivialities. Unfortunately, you immediately jump into conclusions and tag me as someone who is looking for trivial arguments and a keyboard warrior which made me feel disappointed and hurt my feelings since I consider you as a fellow drone pilot who I can share experience with just like any other person here. In my first text, I had provided information for other drone pilots that they can fly their drones in Turkey without a problem and offer them company as a token of my goodwill and making new friends whom I share common hobby. I intended no insult to you or provocation. My point was to clarify that Turks aren’t running around with knifes and fight over women.
I know what gastarbeiter means and agree with you about how these people still identify themselves as gastarbeiter. Such pity that some of 3rd generation of German-Turks can be as ( mod removed ) and gave you my own experience with them which you totally ignored. It’s strange and ironic since there is tension in our discussion yet we are on the same page.
Your comment had negativity regarding Turks and not a single speck of positive information so I felt like I should clarify that Turks are also good people. I can understand that you don’t mean that all Turks are bad but your text isn’t as clear as you thought it would be in your mind or thinking process sir.
Please try to understand that all I wanna do here is to give a clear picture of Turkish people to my fellow drone pilots so they wouldn’t have biases regarding Turkey.
Turkey is a touristic country so many people around the world come to this country for vacation and some of them bring their drones. I have seen some people here in this forum had visited or planing to visit Turkey so I wanted to share my flying experience with them.
Try to look at the case from my shoes...
I hope, we maintain friendly attitude toward each other and stay as gentleman. Please don’t confuse me as a keyboard warrior or someone who is looking for argument. I’m here for drones not wars...
Thank you for understanding sir.
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Sir please stop blemishing Turkey’s image. There are good people live in this country. These warnings are often issued by the state department for many foreign countries and doesn’t hold serious warning. Turkey is a secular, utilitarian and a democratic state a member of NATO and been a strong ally of the United States. I think, what you write here is hateful which is really disappointing. I was expecting open minded and civilized manner from you but all I get is insults. Not long ago there was an attack in Las Vegas which caused a massive tragedy, so many young lives had diminished only because a gun freak lost his mind started to shoot at people after killing his family. If you are so concerned about safety maybe you should support gun control...
People had lived and still living in this land in peace for thousands of years. Where I live right now is the western part of Turkey which is Aegean region and yes I like the nature and history here, peaceful...
As Herodotus said,who had lived in the same city as I live today, 2500 years ago;
“The ears of men are lesser agents of belief than their eyes”
He also quoted about where he lived...
“A land of great beauty under the most beautiful heaven where the climate is perfect”
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this region is the most beautiful place on earth but it has its own aura of ancient mythology, mystery and a lovely nature. Just like the rest of the world (except war zones), this regions is also beautiful and safe...
He said these words so many years ago and you can only understand it if you breath the fresh air here.
That’s what I feel every time I fly my mavic. I get a great pleasure when go to the rooftop of my house 2 hours before sunset when the sun is forgiving and everything peaceful. As a gentle breeze carry the scent of fresh air I start up my mavic and fly across the spectacular fields of olive and fig trees. Capture the lovely scenery that satisfied people for thousands of years. Then I say to my self... what would ancients say if they would be able to see the nature from up above and think of this marvelous device of Mavic...
I guess this is a sentiment you wouldn’t comprehend since a casual warning is good enough for you to tag this lovely place as a war zone...
I’m so disappointed [emoji17]
As Herodotus said,who had lived in the same city as I live today, 2500 years ago;
“The ears of men are lesser agents of belief than their eyes”
He also quoted about where he lived...
“A land of great beauty under the most beautiful heaven where the climate is perfect”
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this region is the most beautiful place on earth but it has its own aura of ancient mythology, mystery and a lovely nature. Just like the rest of the world (except war zones), this regions is also beautiful and safe...
He said these words so many years ago and you can only understand it if you breath the fresh air here.
That’s what I feel every time I fly my mavic. I get a great pleasure when go to the rooftop of my house 2 hours before sunset when the sun is forgiving and everything peaceful. As a gentle breeze carry the scent of fresh air I start up my mavic and fly across the spectacular fields of olive and fig trees. Capture the lovely scenery that satisfied people for thousands of years. Then I say to my self... what would ancients say if they would be able to see the nature from up above and think of this marvelous device of Mavic...
I guess this is a sentiment you wouldn’t comprehend since a casual warning is good enough for you to tag this lovely place as a war zone...
I’m so disappointed [emoji17]
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] yes this topic isn’t going anywhere so I’m just gonna have to leave it to its own and see how it flows. Tired of typing anyways...
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And I don't like reports so this closed for the moment and might even reopen 
Nope it is closed .
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