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[Starz]

The loss of GPS is puzzling and definitely not normal

The OP has mentioned that there was a 12800 Mah battery riding along on this adventure. If that hardware was fixed to the top of this aircraft, would that be the cause of the GPS disturbance? The Mavic Pro GPS module is, if I remember correctly, located top front of that particular model.

 

[Meta4]

The OP has mentioned that there was a 12800 Mah battery riding along on this adventure. If that hardware was fixed to the top of this aircraft, would that be the cause of the GPS disturbance? The Mavic Pro GPS module is, if I remember correctly, located top front of that particular model.

Maybe ... but I'd expect it to be constant or a problem for much more of the time if that was the cause.
GPS was fine for most of the 18 minute flight data, but was out for much of the 3 minute flight data

 

[Talldiver]

Welcome tothe forum from Northwest New Jersey.

 

[sarahb]

Welcome!

 

[fatback68]

Trees will block the controller signal if there are enough of them.
You need to fly where there is a clear, unobstructed line of sight between the controller and drone.

None of the warning messages indicated any loss of control and the data up to that point suggests that you had full control.
But many of the messages should have been a clue that you were flying much too far.

The loss of GPS is puzzling and definitely not normal.
Possibly due to a hardware issue?

So have you flown DJI drones before?
Are you aware of the rules for drone flying?

im going to ask this question if a drone had been jammed what would the flight data show? this is second time this has happened i was lucky it happened within eyesite and my beacon i had attatched was visible high up that pine tree that night gps was 150 yards off i hit find my drone on the go fly app so was off... a good friend off mine 5 milkes away had same thing happen to him accept his crashed he said it came down like a missile from 320 ft or so.. i had a good signal out at furthest point then half way home same elevation so surely no tree line to block signal i have reflectors and yagis i know how to keep controller pointed at drone i feel like i was out of line flying to high and was being sent a message i got a landing flag just before i paniced an jumped in my truck that night its not in the data!....there are many many many survellance drones in my night sky have been for 3 yrs now its what got me interested in them here is an old grainy photo of a few hanging out under the moon if you zoom in and play with settings they are the specks in photo maybe im wrong maybe im not but theres more than i can count coming across my farm from there launch point thats within 1 mile of were my drone went missing what kind of drone stays up in 35 + mph winds all night before going in to roost? thats 12 hours! maybe hydrogen cells? move about in groups honing in on any type of night activity changing there elevation turn there lights off an on at will and stranger things i have seen them do i wont mention here so now you have somewhat of an idea ...here you will see this flight was first time i could tell my controller was not connected to drone and first time i had seen the numbers of flags going off one after the other like on 6/13 regardless of what record shows i can tell you what my controller was telling it to do and what it was doing not same for few seconds here and there was in my sight no obstructions here is that flight almost looks like that guy was chasing something or things ?...
first time it happened

 

[Meta4]

Perhaps you can answer my questions ???
Have you flown DJI drones before or are you a new flyer?
Are you aware of the rules pertaining to drone flying?
Were you flying at 4am?

im going to ask this question if a drone had been jammed what would the flight data show?

That would depend on what kind of jamming you encountered.
Your flight data shows your satellite reception information, the joystick inputs you make and how the drone responds to those commands.
I could not see any times where your drone did not properly follow your joystick inputs.
Jamming is exceptionally rare.
Your control signals are encoded and no-one is able to take over command of your drone.
The most likely kind of jamming would swamp your control signal, which would cause the drone to RTH if the jamming was strong enough.

this is second time this has happened

Second time what happened?
It might be the second time that you were confused and disoriented?

gps was 150 yards off

That's hard to accept.
GPS doesn't do that, and suggesting it only reinforces my idea about operator confusion.

i hit find my drone on the go fly app so was off

There are many possible explanations for the Find My Drone location to be different from where the drone ends up.
FMD can only show you where the drone was when the controller last received good location data.
It doesn't necessarily show where the drone is now.

a good friend off mine 5 milkes away had same thing happen to him accept his crashed he said it came down like a missile from 320 ft or so

Without seeing his flight data, we can't draw any conclusions about what might have caused that incident.

i feel like i was out of line flying to high and was being sent a message

It sounds like you were way out of line and need to learn about the rules.
The flights you've posted data for were far too high and way off in the distance.

i got a landing flag just before i paniced an jumped in my truck that night its not in the data!

What's not in the data?
There's probably far more in the data than you are aware of.

there are many many many survellance drones in my night sky have been for 3 yrs now its what got me interested in them here is an old grainy photo of a few hanging out under the moon if you zoom in and play with settings they are the specks in photo maybe im wrong

Yes, maybe you are wrong.
I see small pinpoints of light in the night sky here but wouldn't ever imagine they are surveillance drones.

maybe im not but theres more than i can count coming across my farm from there launch point thats within 1 mile of were my drone went missing what kind of drone stays up in 35 + mph winds all night before going in to roost? thats 12 hours! maybe hydrogen cells?

Maybe your imagination ??

move about in groups honing in on any type of night activity changing there elevation turn there lights off an on at will and stranger things i have seen them do i wont mention here so now you have somewhat of an idea

Yep .. I get the idea

...here you will see this flight was first time i could tell my controller was not connected to drone and first time i had seen the numbers of flags going off one after the other like on 6/13 regardless of what record shows i can tell you what my controller was telling it to do and what it was doing not same for few seconds here and there was in my sight no obstructions here is that flight

I'll look into that data and see what I can find.

almost looks like that guy was chasing something or things ?...

????????

 

[fatback68]

Perhaps you can answer my questions ???
Have you flown DJI drones before or are you a new flyer?
Are you aware of the rules pertaining to drone flying?
Were you flying at 4am?


That would depend on what kind of jamming you encountered.
Your flight data shows your satellite reception information, the joystick inputs you make and how the drone responds to those commands.
I could not see any times where your drone did not properly follow your joystick inputs.
Jamming is exceptionally rare.
Your control signals are encoded and no-one is able to take over command of your drone.
The most likely kind of jamming would swamp your control signal, which would cause the drone to RTH if the jamming was strong enough.


Second time what happened?
It might be the second time that you were confused and disoriented?

That's hard to accept.
GPS doesn't do that, and suggesting it only reinforces my idea about operator confusion.

There are many possible explanations for the Find My Drone location to be different from where the drone ends up.
FMD can only show you where the drone was when the controller last received good location data.
It doesn't necessarily show where the drone is now.

Without seeing his flight data, we can't draw any conclusions about what might have caused that incident.


It sounds like you were way out of line and need to learn about the rules.
The flights you've posted data for were far too high and way off in the distance.

What's not in the data?
There's probably far more in the data than you are aware of.

Yes, maybe you are wrong.
I see small pinpoints of light in the night sky here but wouldn't ever imagine they are surveillance drones.

Maybe your imagination ??

Yep .. I get the idea

I'll look into that data and see what I can find.

????????

ok every one here has gave there honest opinions thats why i came here theres so much i do not know all i do know is i dont have my sense of country living anymore sadly the privacy is gone i do know what im seeing so do many others who live here these things are here i see them every night accept rain nights have even pinned there launch site you can see what looks like a funnel forming out of one spot in the dark night sky when i first figured out what i was seeing i talked my dad into going with me to see about things we got within half a mile what we were seeing was happing at some chicken houses on private property maybe 5 or 6 at the time were being launched there lights would not turn on till right under the clouds thats were the funnel we were seeing started then at a snails pace they were fanning out in differant directions look my own family didnt want to accept what i was trying to tell them till they started looking up now we are all asking the question why here? i tell you what give me a few days and i will see if i can figure out how to make a time lapse of my night sky then you will have to ask your own eyes if there confused lol thank you for your knowledge and your humble opinions they are truely appreciated thats why im here ..i have been on this trail all alone looking for answers for a while now an strange things i have seen happen so i think i have good reason for my confusion over my drone piloting that is ,the drones that are here out there now no confusion there at all just a part of our lives around my way jus know this im of sound mind somewhat reckless the older i get but im solid why are they here is my question now an maybe i was hopeful someone here could tell me something about what im seeing forget my drone its gone whatever happened to it i guess no one will ever know thank you all for taking the time to try an help me

 

[Meta4]

ok every one here has gave there honest opinions thats why i came here theres so much i do not know all i do know is i dont have my sense of country living anymore sadly the privacy is gone i do know what im seeing so do many others who live here these things are here i see them every night accept rain nights have even pinned there launch site you can see what looks like a funnel forming out of one spot in the dark night sky when i first figured out what i was seeing i talked my dad into going with me to see about things we got within half a mile what we were seeing was happing at some chicken houses on private property maybe 5 or 6 at the time were being launched there lights would not turn on till right under the clouds thats were the funnel we were seeing started then at a snails pace they were fanning out in differant directions look my own family didnt want to accept what i was trying to tell them till they started looking up now we are all asking the question why here? i tell you what give me a few days and i will see if i can figure out how to make a time lapse of my night sky then you will have to ask your own eyes if there confused lol thank you for your knowledge and your humble opinions they are truely appreciated thats why im here ..i have been on this trail all alone looking for answers for a while now an strange things i have seen happen so i think i have good reason for my confusion over my drone piloting that is ,the drones that are here out there now no confusion there at all just a part of our lives around my way jus know this im of sound mind somewhat reckless the older i get but im solid why are they here is my question now an maybe i was hopeful someone here could tell me something about what im seeing forget my drone its gone whatever happened to it i guess no one will ever know thank you all for taking the time to try an help me

One more question .... do you understand what a sentence is?

 

[fatback68]

One more question .... do you understand what a sentence is?

its been a while since i was in a school house brother and a computer screen ha! im typing now with one fingure lol!!!!

 

[Meta4]

here you will see this flight was first time i could tell my controller was not connected to drone and first time i had seen the numbers of flags going off one after the other like on 6/13

I've asked a few questions three times now to get a better idea of your flying experience, but you have completely ignored me.
It's clear that you have no regard for flying rules and frequently fly as high as the drone can go.

Here's the story that the recorded flight data tells ....
(btw .. this data analysis and reporting what it shows, took 2 hours)

A couple of unusual things I noticed in this flight are that although the drone is already at 1640 feet, you keep trying to go higher, pushing the left stick to the limit as you fly.
And when you fly, instead of flying straight forward you commonly have the right stick pushed fully forward and also pushed left to some extent.

You are frequently losing the downlink and sometimes getting weak signal messages.
This shows in the recorded flight data, but you might not be aware of it while flying.
AT 9:20.8 the drone entered RTH and started heading home.
At 10:02 you cancelled RTH and 20 seconds layer started flying further away from home again.
At 13:06.6 you went to RTH again and the drone started towards home from 8677 feet southwest of home.

At 14:45.3 with the drone still more than a mile out, you get an important message: Critically low power. Aircraft is landing.
Since 9:19 you have ignored four messages that advised you : The remaining battery is only enough for RTH. Return home now.
Instead of returning, you flew further, turned back to fly further again after RTH for a while and flown in Sport Mode, which burns the battery faster.

You left the drone autolanding for almost a minute before resuming forward flight.
From 16:18.1 although you had the right stick fully forward, the drone refused to fly forward and only descended, presumably because the battery level was too low to support forward flight + autolanding.
During the descent you received more downlink lost messages which might have confused you as the drone appeared to be ignoring your control inputs.
AT 17:06.2 with the drone >4000 ft out and having descended from 1640 ft to 300 ft, you tried pushing the left stick up to stop the descent.
This had no effect because the battery level was too low and the drone was trying to descend safely rather than run out of power and fall from the sky.

The descent continued with data ending at 17:03.3 with the drone 233 feet higher than the launch point and >400 ft from home.
It's not clear if data ended because the battery failed and the drone fell, or if it just lost signal through the forest and continued to descend safely, possibly getting hung up in trees.

regardless of what record shows i can tell you what my controller was telling it to do and what it was doing not same for few seconds here and there was in my sight no obstructions here is that flight

I don't see anything remotely looking like losing control or having the drone jammed.
I see a drone that autolanded when battery level was critically low, not a drone that fell like a stone.
Your drone responded exactly as it should to all your joystick inputs.
You may have been confused by losing downlink multiple times.
I do see plenty of signs of a confused and disoriented flyer who didn't know how to fly safely out and bring the drone back again.

If you go to the Airdaya report and click on the Notifications link above the map window, you will see a listing of all the warnings from the flight.
Note the number of times you lost downlink and how long you lost it for.
When this happened, you had no new video data from the drone, but the drone was still connected and receiving your joystick inputs.
That will have been part of the confusion you experienced.

 

[fatback68]

I've asked a few questions three times now to get a better idea of your flying experience, but you have completely ignored me.
It's clear that you have no regard for flying rules and frequently fly as high as the drone can go.

Here's the story that the recorded flight data tells ....
(btw .. this data analysis and reporting what it shows, took 2 hours)

A couple of unusual things I noticed in this flight are that although the drone is already at 1640 feet, you keep trying to go higher, pushing the left stick to the limit as you fly.
And when you fly, instead of flying straight forward you commonly have the right stick pushed fully forward and also pushed left to some extent.

You are frequently losing the downlink and sometimes getting weak signal messages.
This shows in the recorded flight data, but you might not be aware of it while flying.
AT 9:20.8 the drone entered RTH and started heading home.
At 10:02 you cancelled RTH and 20 seconds layer started flying further away from home again.
At 13:06.6 you went to RTH again and the drone started towards home from 8677 feet southwest of home.

At 14:45.3 with the drone still more than a mile out, you get an important message: Critically low power. Aircraft is landing.
Since 9:19 you have ignored four messages that advised you : The remaining battery is only enough for RTH. Return home now.
Instead of returning, you flew further, turned back to fly further again after RTH for a while and flown in Sport Mode, which burns the battery faster.

You left the drone autolanding for almost a minute before resuming forward flight.
From 16:18.1 although you had the right stick fully forward, the drone refused to fly forward and only descended, presumably because the battery level was too low to support forward flight + autolanding.
During the descent you received more downlink lost messages which might have confused you as the drone appeared to be ignoring your control inputs.
AT 17:06.2 with the drone >4000 ft out and having descended from 1640 ft to 300 ft, you tried pushing the left stick up to stop the descent.
This had no effect because the battery level was too low and the drone was trying to descend safely rather than run out of power and fall from the sky.

The descent continued with data ending at 17:03.3 with the drone 233 feet higher than the launch point and >400 ft from home.
It's not clear if data ended because the battery failed and the drone fell, or if it just lost signal through the forest and continued to descend safely, possibly getting hung up in trees.


I don't see anything remotely looking like losing control or having the drone jammed.
I see a drone that autolanded when battery level was critically low, not a drone that fell like a stone.
Your drone responded exactly as it should to all your joystick inputs.
You may have been confused by losing downlink multiple times.
I do see plenty of signs of a confused and disoriented flyer who didn't know how to fly safely out and bring the drone back again.

I still can't tell what that means.

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