Low flying wart hogs

[Capt KO]

My home is in a Coast Guard flight path to the Gulf of Mexico, their rescue helos and planes often fly over at 500' which appears much lower. The new ADS-B has come in handy to get out of the way in a hurry, especially on the rare occasion they fly below my 400' limit. It happens.

 

[dart106]

Report it to the FAA. But most likey they had permission.

Reporting to the FAA will most likely be received politely but, considered a “Karen” type report. Most likely, they were on an authorized low level training mission, on an established and charted low level route, and at an authorized altitude.

If the poster identified “town”, a sectional chart could be reference for low level flying routes in the area.

 

[Yorkshire_Pud]

Not sure in NH you are. I live in the mountains of N Georgia. The military has an Army Ranger remote training facility about 30 miles SW of me. The Helicipters ar here at treetop level almost daily. The C17’s and C 130’s every week with there F16/F15 escorts flying our valleys where sometimes we can see the pilots.

From previously posted logs, possibly somewhat north of Phoenix Arizona and approx 40 miles from Luke AFB.
If correct, then they are close to the mouth of two fairly descent valleys/canyons which might well be used for low flying training.
Perhaps this incident was an over enthusiastic over shoot of the low flying area.

 

[dart106]

From previously posted logs, possibly somewhat north of Phoenix Arizona and approx 40 miles from Luke AFB.
If correct, then they are close to the mouth of two fairly descent valleys/canyons which might well be used for low flying training.
Perhaps this incident was an over enthusiastic over shoot of the low flying area.

 

[Yorkshire_Pud]

Thanks, but I am not prepared to comment on whether or not that covers the OP's home area, for privacy reasons.
Hence the vaguess of the location I gave.
Besides, lol I don't understand what the map shows.

 

[dart106]

Thanks, but I am not prepared to comment on whether or not that covers the OP's home area, for privacy reasons.
Hence the vaguess of the location I gave.
Besides, lol I don't understand what the map shows.

Map shows the the location of Luke AFB (KLUF) west of Phoenix, and the myriad of low level routes (light grey lines)in the area. Zoom in on the map and look for VR and IR with a numerical tag.

Problem with the vagueness is the poster’s generalized remark about A-10s and the subsequent “what ifing” that implies something that is more than likely not true. Just trying to clear up the implied misconception.

 

[Rchawks]

ok just sitting here trying to figure out the log in and out thing and 3 A-10's came flying over downtown very low, I could see the pilots in the cockpits ,this cant be legal

You can't sue the gov., we use to live just blocks from the Navy Base in Corpus Christi Tx and if something went wrong and they crashed into your house (or whatever) nothing you can do. Insurance won't cover it either if I remember it right.
All the more reason to fly VLOS. I've seen low level flying of helicopters here a time or two who appeared out of nowhere.

 

[Yorkshire_Pud]

Map shows the the location of Luke AFB (KLUF) west of Phoenix, and the myriad of low level routes (light grey lines)in the area. Zoom in on the map and look for VR and IR with a numerical tag.

Problem with the vagueness is the poster’s generalized remark about A-10s and the subsequent “what ifing” that implies something that is more than likely not true. Just trying to clear up the implied misconception.

Thanks, what do the pink, orange and red borders indicate?

 

[Mt-Ed]

Wish I could have been there to see them! I think they are bada$$ and wished I could have flown one!!!

 

[Cafguy]

Try a Google for "Mach loop video", USA pilots also fly that route.
E.g.

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There was a place about 2 hrs from here called Panamint or Star wars Canyon a few years ago you could sit on the cliffside and watch. I heard it was closed by the military now tho.

 

[Yorkshire_Pud]

There was a place about 2 hrs from here called Panamint or Star wars Canyon a few years ago you could sit on the cliffside and watch. I heard it was closed by the military now tho.

Do you mean the military no longer do low flights within the canyon?

 

[Cafguy]

I don't think they do. Maybe not as much thru the Canyon.... Google says they Do.

 

[dart106]

Thanks, what do the pink, orange and red borders indicate?

Orange is restricted airspace. Pink is military operating areas (MOA). Red is Temporary Restricted Area (TFR). The one north of Phoenix is for fire fighting aircraft. When the interior is also colored, the airspace is active.

 

[mavictk]

My home is in a Coast Guard flight path to the Gulf of Mexico, their rescue helos and planes often fly over at 500' which appears much lower. The new ADS-B has come in handy to get out of the way in a hurry, especially on the rare occasion they fly below my 400' limit. It happens.

Does the CG always show up on ADS-B? I think I have seen National Guard helos in my area that did not show up on ADS-B.

 

[WNYBill]

Along the Gulf coast in Alabama and Florida you see everything at low levels but usually over the beaches.

 

[AMann]

Military Training Routes with 4-digits indicate flight will be less than 1500’ AGL, those with 3-digits have a part or a segment of the route above it. You really need to watch it and have a good view of the horizon when flying near either type of MTR because they can have flights pass by below 500’ as the military follows alternate rules than those of the FAA.

 

[Riteguy]

permission? what happens if they crashed in town, their flying right over the town offices and resort hotels.yikes

Why build anything near an airport. What would happen if someone crashed?

 

[hank970]

You can't sue the gov., we use to live just blocks from the Navy Base in Corpus Christi Tx and if something went wrong and they crashed into your house (or whatever) nothing you can do. Insurance won't cover it either if I remember it right.
All the more reason to fly VLOS. I've seen low level flying of helicopters here a time or two who appeared out of nowhere.

Of course you can sue the government. If you think you have a valid case, you can file a tort claim. Folks do it all the time, and they win. One hitch is that a US Solicitor (government lawyer) will determine whether or not the case is valid and whether the claimant has standing before consenting to allow the case to proceed. The rest is up to the courts. Case in point: DJI has just filed a suit against the US (the Department of Defense, in particular) for discrimination based on allegations that it's linked to the Chinese Communist Party.