My first run in with the law over my drone :(

[iaincaradoc]

Only Part 107 pilots can request "Further Coordination" to fly higher than the published facility map altitude. Since the published altitude for that square near the stadium is 0, there's no path for recreational pilots to fly there at all.

Direct from the FAA:

Recreational Flyers & Modeler Community-Based Organizations

www.faa.gov

"4. Obtain authorization before flying in controlled airspace (Class B, C, D, and E). You can obtain authorization in three ways:

1. LAANC
2. DroneZone
3. A written agreement with the FAA for fixed flying sites. For more information about fixed flying sites, contact us at [email protected].

NOTE: Flying drones in certain airspace is not allowed. Classes of airspace and flying restrictions can be found on our B4UFLY app."

The "0" is for LAANC automatic authorizations only. You can still submit a DroneZone request for authorization as a recreational flyer.

I have no idea if it'll be approved at that location, but one can certainly submit it.

 

[Deleted member 114292]

Yes, I'm aware of that.

I'm also aware that the "0" in B4UFly and AirMap doesn't mean you *can't* fly there. It means you cannot apply for automated LAANC approval. You need to file with DroneZone to get authorization - which may or may not be granted, depending.

I just got one in a 0 square - but only to 100 ft. using drone zone.

 

[Giovanni]

Yes, I'm aware of that.

I'm also aware that the "0" in B4UFly and AirMap doesn't mean you *can't* fly there. It means you cannot apply for automated LAANC approval. You need to file with DroneZone to get authorization - which may or may not be granted, depending.

I'm no lawyer, only a part time SCOTUS. Kidding aside, I interpret drone zone for areas where LAANC is not available. If LAANC is available and says zero sounds like the end of the ride..see below


WASHINGTON – Upgrades to the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) DroneZone now

allows recreational flyers to request airspace authorizations in controlled airspace where the Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability (LAANC) is not available.

Airspace authorizations can take up to 45 days to process and approve through the DroneZone.

Recreational flyers may request to fly up to the designated altitude ceiling in an Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Facility Map (UASFM) and only for daytime operations.

LAANC is a collaboration between the FAA and industry that directly supports the safe integration of Unmanned Aircraft Systems into the nation's airspace, expediting the time it takes for drone pilots to receive authorizations to fly under 400 feet in controlled airspace

 

[iaincaradoc]

I just got one in a 0 square - but only to 100 ft. using drone zone.

Did you apply as a Part 107, or as a Recreational Flyer?

 

[sar104]

The supervisor is partially right, no fly zones do exist over and around any sport venue, for airplanes, blimps and helicopters. I live near a AFB, and restrict my flying at home to no more then 20m. Anything else, I go out somewhere open and clear so I can practice flying by looking at the screen instead of the drone.

TFRs exist over major sports venues when they are in use. So no - at that time he was not partially right, he was completely wrong.

 

[dawgpilot]

Direct from the FAA:

Recreational Flyers & Modeler Community-Based Organizations

www.faa.gov

"4. Obtain authorization before flying in controlled airspace (Class B, C, D, and E). You can obtain authorization in three ways:

1. LAANC
2. DroneZone
3. A written agreement with the FAA for fixed flying sites. For more information about fixed flying sites, contact us at [email protected].

NOTE: Flying drones in certain airspace is not allowed. Classes of airspace and flying restrictions can be found on our B4UFLY app."

The "0" is for LAANC automatic authorizations only. You can still submit a DroneZone request for authorization as a recreational flyer.

I have no idea if it'll be approved at that location, but one can certainly submit it.

It won't be approved according to the current FAA guidance for processing such requests. (issued only 6 days ago)

Quote from Page 5:

Chapter 2. Processing of Section 44809 Authorization Requests
...
b. When requested area is in a 0 ft. grid square, issue a denial letter with the statement “Operations at altitudes above the UAS Facility Map (UASFM) are currently not authorized under Section 44809, Exception for Limited Recreational Operations of Unmanned Aircraft.”

 

[iaincaradoc]

It won't be approved according to the current FAA guidance for processing such requests. (issued only 6 days ago)

That's good info.

As I said, "I have no idea if it'll be approved at that location, but one can certainly submit it."

 

[spamgnome]

It's an FAA Authorization Zone not a No Fly Zone

I stand corrected. That said, without an authorization, it's a de facto "no fly zone." I think we are in violent agreement!

 

[Deleted member 114292]

Did you apply as a Part 107, or as a Recreational Flyer?

Part 107 - would never bother to do that for recreational. The the job paid me and said never mind (I had already done a batch of ground shots and they really did not care for the 100ft deal)

 

[maven4336]

Right hook lol. Sorry to hear that bro, what has happened to our world

 

[BigAl07]

Right hook lol. Sorry to hear that bro, what has happened to our world

????

Who are you referring to?

 

[Mave76]

So technically I could fly there huh?

Not until you get an authorization. You have to file a request for an approval to fly over the area.

 

[Joe Blow]

So how do I know about local ordinances? They're not published are they? If I go to the boat launch In Tarentum, Pennsylvania parking lot can I fly? I don't know who owns the lot. It is gov owned but don't know which one. What about the parks a long the river here? Again I don't know if they're marked for ownership. I know about flying over people so you don't have to answer that one. What about the river although I'm not ready to risk losing my air2 yet but, if I did am I legal?

 

[iaincaradoc]

So how do I know about local ordinances? They're not published are they?

Unmanned Aircraft Systems

www.penndot.gov

Unmanned Aerial Systems and Drones

www.dcnr.pa.gov

It's *really* not hard to look these up.

 

[Mavic Mac]

So how do I know about local ordinances? They're not published are they? If I go to the boat launch In Tarentum, Pennsylvania parking lot can I fly? I don't know who owns the lot. It is gov owned but don't know which one. What about the parks a long the river here? Again I don't know if they're marked for ownership. I know about flying over people so you don't have to answer that one. What about the river although I'm not ready to risk losing my air2 yet but, if I did am I legal?

Most towns/counties have online tax information on property owners. It normally can be found doing a google search for the tax department then clicking on the map or property card info.

 

[Skyfall-0D2]

Do you guys have a basic FAA pilots theory test in the USA ??, like in the UK ??? It covers this terminology and NFZ’s etc? Is that what Part 107 is?

 

[iaincaradoc]

Do you guys have a basic FAA pilots theory test in the USA ??, like in the UK ??? It covers this terminology and NFZ’s etc? Is that what Part 107 is?

Part 107 is for commercial pilots. There's supposed to be a "knowledge test" for recreational flyers at some point.

 

[Deleted member 114292]

Do you guys have a basic FAA pilots theory test in the USA ??, like in the UK ??? It covers this terminology and NFZ’s etc? Is that what Part 107 is?

A no-fly zone, or no-flight zone (NFZ), air exclusion zone (AEZ),[1] is a territory or area established by a military power over which certain aircraft are not permitted to fly.

 

[sar104]

A no-fly zone, or no-flight zone (NFZ), air exclusion zone (AEZ),[1] is a territory or area established by a military power over which certain aircraft are not permitted to fly.

Right - but that's going to confuse some readers who will infer that it refers to the US NAS.

 

[Deleted member 114292]

Right - but that's going to confuse some readers who will infer that it refers to the US NAS.

Well that’s just the definition of a no-fly zone.
I don’t know of any no-fly zones in the United States.
Perhaps it would Behoove us to use the correct terminology