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[Eagle430]

Hi I just bought a brand new Mavic 3 pro, I upgraded from a Mavic 2 pro.
I was very happy with my Mavic 2, it was reliable , never had any bad moments with it.

I used to fly it with my iPad mini 5, is it going to work with my Mavic 3 and the fly app?

Also any known issues with the Mavic 3 I need to be aware of?
Also am on a tight budget , if the Mavic 3 has known issues for fly aways etc. I will wait a bit to get some money and buy the DJI refresh plan

 

[GadgetGuy]

Hi I just bought a brand new Mavic 3 pro, I upgraded from a Mavic 2 pro.
I was very happy with my Mavic 2, it was reliable , never had any bad moments with it.

I used to fly it with my iPad mini 5, is it going to work with my Mavic 3 and the fly app?

Also any known issues with the Mavic 3 I need to be aware of?
Also am on a tight budget , if the Mavic 3 has known issues for fly aways etc. I will wait a bit to get some money and buy the DJI refresh plan

There is no Mavic 3 Pro. Did you buy a Mavic 3 or a Mini 3 Pro?
IPad Mini 5 should be fine. However, that limits you to the $109 crappy RC-N1 controller. For the best Mavic 3 experience, you'll want to eventually upgrade the included RC-N1 controller to the $1200 RC Pro. Save up for it. Refresh purchased after 48 hours from registration is more complicated because you'll have to prove it hasn't already been crashed.

 

[msinger]

if the Mavic 3 has known issues for fly aways etc.

Most fly aways (for any DJI drone model) have been due to pilot error. Those unfortunate pilots usually just refer to those incidents as fly aways since they don't understand what happened.

 

[Eagle430]

There is no Mavic 3 Pro. Did you buy a Mavic 3 or a Mini 3 Pro?
IPad Mini 5 should be fine. However, that limits you to the $109 crappy RC-N1 controller. For the best Mavic 3 experience, you'll want to eventually upgrade the included RC-N1 controller to the $1200 RC Pro. Save up for it. Refresh purchased after 48 hours from registration is more complicated because you'll have to prove it hasn't already been crashed.

I don't need a controller costing the price of another drone for my needs. As for the refresh I think you need to activate it first and then be able to fly it?

 

[Eagle430]

There is no Mavic 3 Pro. Did you buy a Mavic 3 or a Mini 3 Pro?
IPad Mini 5 should be fine. However, that limits you to the $109 crappy RC-N1 controller. For the best Mavic 3 experience, you'll want to eventually upgrade the included RC-N1 controller to the $1200 RC Pro. Save up for it. Refresh purchased after 48 hours from registration is more complicated because you'll have to prove it hasn't already been crashed.

Mavic 3

 

[Eagle430]

I ve read that DJI refresh care covers flyaways, I thought if a drone for any reason flies away is it not covered by warranty from DJI if it's less than two year old?

 

[KS-6]

I don't need a controller costing the price of another drone for my needs. As for the refresh I think you need to activate it first and then be able to fly it?

Then what are your “needs” since in some ways the difference between the Mavic 2 Pro and the Mavic 3 come down to content creation goals and flight time?

For what it is worth, I am keeping my Mavic 2 Pro even though I am likely to favor the Mavic 3 for most jobs, once I get a good one that is…

 

[Filmarik]

Then what are your “needs” since in some ways the difference between the Mavic 2 Pro and the Mavic 3 come down to content creation goals and flight time?

For what it is worth, I am keeping my Mavic 2 Pro even though I am likely to favor the Mavic 3 for most jobs, once I get a good one that is…

Based on your sharp eye and setting the IQ bar pretty high, the M3 is likely not gonna cut it for you (and me). I am personally yet to see one shot evenly and consistently sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner from the wide Mavic 3 camera. With all the DNG samples I've seen there was always something wrong. Decentered lens, sensor not paralel with the lens, lens optically flawed in one corner or another corner or near one edge or other edge etc etc.

 

[Eagle430]

Based on your sharp eye and setting the IQ bar pretty high, the M3 is likely not gonna cut it for you (and me). I am personally yet to see one shot evenly and consistently sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner from the wide Mavic 3 camera. With all the DNG samples I've seen there was always something wrong. Decentered lens, sensor not paralel with the lens, lens optically flawed in one corner or another corner or near one edge or other edge etc etc.

It also depends on how you take a photo, what settings you are using and also how you edit the photo. On paper the mavic 3 is a better camera drone

 

[Filmarik]

It also depends on how you take a photo, what settings you are using and also how you edit the photo. On paper the mavic 3 is a better camera drone

Yeah, on paper it certainly is. But that does not necessarily mean much in reality.
Show me one uncropped photo taken with this so called Hasselblad camera using optimal camera settings, expertly processed and edited etc etc which is sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner.

 

[Eagle430]

Yeah, on paper it certainly is. But that does not necessarily mean much in reality.
Show me one uncropped photo taken with this so called Hasselblad camera using optimal camera settings, expertly processed and edited etc etc which is sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner.

With the Mavic 2 it was sharp edge to edge? Also it depends what you are shooting, we had the same debate with photography, a landscape photographer wants edge to edge sharpness which it depends a lot on settings first and then the lens , but if someone is a fashion photographer they want center sharpness and near center with out bothering about edges

 

[Filmarik]

With the Mavic 2 it was sharp edge to edge? Also it depends what you are shooting, we had the same debate with photography, a landscape photographer wants edge to edge sharpness which it depends a lot on settings first and then the lens , but if someone is a fashion photographer they want center sharpness and near center with out bothering about edges

So, what are going to be shooting with M3?? Fashion or portraits with its 24mm lens?? You are kidding, right? Tell me one area of drone photography where you would be satisfied if your drone camera would be delivering only sharp pictures in the middle of the frame. That would be pretty limitting to what you could use the drone for, wouldn't you think ? For the price of M3 I want sharp photos from corner to corner, if not wide open then at least when I stop the lens down to f4 or f5.6. If I would want soft edges and corners to create a specific artistic expression I could well do that in post using Photoshop. But I would not be happy with a drone producing photos with inferior IQ i.e. terribly blurry one corner or soft half of the frame. Would you?? And unfortunatelly that is what I have seen from M3 so far. Not a single photo which would convince me that this drone is a good choice for a stills landscape photographer.

 

[KS-6]

Based on your sharp eye and setting the IQ bar pretty high, the M3 is likely not gonna cut it for you (and me). I am personally yet to see one shot evenly and consistently sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner from the wide Mavic 3 camera. With all the DNG samples I've seen there was always something wrong. Decentered lens, sensor not paralel with the lens, lens optically flawed in one corner or another corner or near one edge or other edge etc etc.

Go to the link that is almost hidden in the opening post in this thread:

Is my Mavic 3 just not sharp or is this normal

I have a new drone to replace my aging P4A which was, and still is, a great camera. My raws don't seem very sharp. Corners are fine, just overall. Seems to be off. Can anyone check these dngs for me? M3TEST

mavicpilots.com

I feel that these samples are spot on and with permission from the OP I sent them to DJI to reference as they find me what I hope to be my third and in spec Mavic 3 Cine.

 

[Filmarik]

Go to the link that is almost hidden in the opening post in this thread:

Is my Mavic 3 just not sharp or is this normal

I have a new drone to replace my aging P4A which was, and still is, a great camera. My raws don't seem very sharp. Corners are fine, just overall. Seems to be off. Can anyone check these dngs for me? M3TEST

mavicpilots.com

I feel that these samples are spot on and with permission from the OP I sent them to DJI to reference as they find me what I hope to be my third and in spec Mavic 3 Cine.

A bit hard to judge on these smallish JPEGs but they seem to look pretty good and uniformly sharp, and definitely better than yours. I just hate the thought that I would have to endure the pain of sending my new drone back to DJI several times until I get a good one. What is troubling me even more is that there might be a very few really good ones out there judging by the numerous bad examples of DNG files I've seen. So, the chance of getting a really good one seems pretty slim. That says a lot about the DJI's manufacturing processes and their QC. The numerous M3s, DNG samples from which I saw, should have never passed the final testing, if there is such thing there at all. To me it looks more like they are churning these things out without any final output product testing of the alignment of sensor with lens, and the optical quality and performace of the lens itself. Matter of slim chance getting a really good one, if you ask me. So, good luck to you, you might get lucky at the end of this excruciating process and you might not.

 

[Bob in Savannah]

Based on your sharp eye and setting the IQ bar pretty high, the M3 is likely not gonna cut it for you (and me). I am personally yet to see one shot evenly and consistently sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner from the wide Mavic 3 camera. With all the DNG samples I've seen there was always something wrong. Decentered lens, sensor not paralel with the lens, lens optically flawed in one corner or another corner or near one edge or other edge etc I think it's

Based on your sharp eye and setting the IQ bar pretty high, the M3 is likely not gonna cut it for you (and me). I am personally yet to see one shot evenly and consistently sharp from edge to edge and corner to corner from the wide Mavic 3 camera. With all the DNG samples I've seen there was always something wrong. Decentered lens, sensor not paralel with the lens, lens optically flawed in one corner or another corner or near one edge or other edge etc etc.

So, you're saying that the m3 has a defective camera? Or that you just haven't seen a large enough sample? Im in no way arguing because I don't know myself but I find it hard to believe you're the first to figure this out. Right?

I mean, The examples/samples shown around here are in posts complaining about them. A quick google search results in zero examples of an across-the-board faulty camera. Yes, there seems to be plenty of earlier models (as well as some recently) with issues but to boast a sweeping general statement might be truly unfounded. From what I can tell these folks exchanged these inferior m3s for corrected ones.

I'm sure there is plenty of data over 7 months old with poor cameras but Im thinking most of that has been worked out in the firmware and hardware changes. the past 6 or 7 months or so. I'm probably just misunderstanding you because I don't think anyone believes the m3 is outfitted with a defective camera. Factory defects in any device can occur and an exchange should correct it.

 

[KS-6]

So, you're saying that the m3 has a defective camera? Or that you just haven't seen a large enough sample? Im in no way arguing because I don't know myself but I find it hard to believe you're the first to figure this out. Right?

I mean, The examples/samples shown around here are in posts complaining about them. A quick google search results in zero examples of an across-the-board faulty camera. Yes, there seems to be plenty of earlier models (as well as some recently) with issues but to boast a sweeping general statement might be truly unfounded. From what I can tell these folks exchanged these inferior m3s for corrected ones.

I'm sure there is plenty of data over 7 months old with poor cameras but Im thinking most of that has been worked out in the firmware and hardware changes. the past 6 or 7 months or so. I'm probably just misunderstanding you because I don't think anyone believes the m3 is outfitted with a defective camera. Factory defects in any device can occur and an exchange should correct it.

Ummm, I know you are talking to the other guy but I purchased a brand new Mavic 3 Cine from B&H on August 15th. That one had a badly aligned camera so it went back and they sent a new replacement. That one was also poorly aligned so it went back and now I have a third one on the way.

If this third one comes back bunk then I think I personally have every right to say that the Mavic 3 has a defective camera with the occasional one that is actually great if you get lucky like the other poster in the thread I referenced above.

I have a business to run and I get no revenue from being an involuntary quality control tester so I will be done with DJI entirely if it is three strikes.

 

[Filmarik]

Ummm, I know you are talking to the other guy but I purchased a brand new Mavic 3 Cine from B&H on August 15th. That one had a badly aligned camera so it went back and they sent a new replacement. That one was also poorly aligned so it went back and now I have a third one on the way.

If this third one comes back bunk then I think I personally have every right to say that the Mavic 3 has a defective camera with the occasional one that is actually great if you get lucky like the other poster in the thread I referenced above.

I have a business to run and I get no revenue from being an involuntary quality control tester so I will be done with DJI entirely if it is three strikes.

Just based on you getting two M3s, both with cameras producing unsatisfactory IQ photos, and several DNG samples from other owners (I downloaded and processed myself) exhibitting similar IQ issues is to me strong enough evidence that the output QC and testing of this drone in factory is non existent or poor and also that the manufacturing process is unable to produce consistent output quality. What other conclusion can one draw??
Getting a good one looks like a strike of good luck rather than a norm. And that is pretty aweful, IMHO..

 

[Bob in Savannah]

Ummm, I know you are talking to the other guy but I purchased a brand new Mavic 3 Cine from B&H on August 15th. That one had a badly aligned camera so it went back and they sent a new replacement. That one was also poorly aligned so it went back and now I have a third one on the way.

If this third one comes back bunk then I think I personally have every right to say that the Mavic 3 has a defective camera with the occasional one that is actually great if you get lucky like the other poster in the thread I referenced above.

I have a business to run and I get no revenue from being an involuntary quality control tester so I will be done with DJI entirely if it is three strikes.

You would know more than I do,thats for sure! I'm just going off the numbers. You're the professional. So, saying that, I'm not going to argue. Just saying the "numbers" would say you've gotten quite the RAW deal (scuse the pun) and your third m3 will be acceptable. I definitely would like to know how that turns out. *fingers crossed*

 

[GadgetGuy]

Ummm, I know you are talking to the other guy but I purchased a brand new Mavic 3 Cine from B&H on August 15th. That one had a badly aligned camera so it went back and they sent a new replacement. That one was also poorly aligned so it went back and now I have a third one on the way.

If this third one comes back bunk then I think I personally have every right to say that the Mavic 3 has a defective camera with the occasional one that is actually great if you get lucky like the other poster in the thread I referenced above.

I have a business to run and I get no revenue from being an involuntary quality control tester so I will be done with DJI entirely if it is three strikes.

One of the problems of buying from a large reseller like B&H is that they buy in bulk, and when you return one defective unit, it is likely replaced with another from the same shipment, which increases the odds of replicating the problem, if they were all from the same bad batch. I went though 10 P4P's to find a good one at B&H, and then had no additional problems with 3 subsequent purchases later on. Try one from a different source, rather than three from the same source, close in time.

 

[KS-6]

One of the problems of buying from a large reseller like B&H is that they buy in bulk, and when you return one defective unit, it is likely replaced with another from the same shipment, which increases the odds of replicating the problem, if they were all from the same bad batch. I went though 10 P4P's to find a good one at B&H, and then had no additional problems with 3 subsequent purchases later on. Try one from a different source, rather than three from the same source, close in time.

The second and now third replacement are coming directly from DJI. I figure this is not the fault of B&H but DJI’s in terms of quality control so why punish a company I have ordered from since 1983?