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Basically here's the problem with the Phantom: It's a big flying pillow.
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This is approximate in flight attitude, minus batteries. Mavic tucks batteries neatly underneath and the fuselage streamlines decently.

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This sums up why the Mavic will fly 121,400 total ft, climbing over 1100" and do it with 109Wh of motor power.

I'd still like to see one of those secret phantom .dat files to convince me why the Phantom has efficiency potential.

Lolo has his setup so that it flies with near zero lean. You see how his horizon is at the zero point? He minimizes the frontal area and uses front props as a wing which are basically flat. The rear props are doing nearly all the forward thrust and have high pitch 4.5 props. Pretty sweet stuff! With 4s he can shoot for 200K total distance at relatively high speed.

For comparison, my mavic needs 170ish watts on average for flights at that speed. His needs only 109W. Big difference!
 
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And the best part is DJI built in rear tilt via the folding mechanism. I simply removed the metal detent hinge and lock the arm upwards. Fine tuning is done with shim washers under the motor mount.

For reference again the Fastenal part number is 71051 and you need to open them up slightly to fit over the bolts.
 
along does it take until my post go on the leaderboard ?
Huh!:eek: Well, with the Holidays and @JakeMaxxUAV being very busy, hopefully not very much longer. I posted mine up over a week ago, but like I said, Holidays and All! I can't really speak for Jake but we just try and be patient and I'm sure he will get to it ASAP!Thumbswayup
 
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Can be weeks between updates. Check out an all makes leaderboard here: Leader Board
Hey lolo does it take weeks to get a flight posted on that other board? Honestly after posting a flight and waiting soooo long to have it updated really takes the thrill away!
 
Hey lolo does it take weeks to get a flight posted on that other board? Honestly after posting a flight and waiting soooo long to have it updated really takes the thrill away!

Last flight I saw posted was from the previous day.
 
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Jake not sure if you will take this or not understandable. Been having bad luck with my data files from my phone either it is deleted or today my app frozen up but before it froze it shown drone disconnected. I was 8400 ft out and only thing I had to go from was the LED from the controller. My video on board did record the full flight. This file is from 12.19.17 I flow out to 46617ft and back no problem. the problem in I had 25% battery and went out for a quick short flight. ended up running out of battery and losing the data file on my phone. this is the data file from the drone. Used datcon to convert it to csv file. Ground is flat nothing over 20 ft except for power lines. running just a battery mode ( plug in from you (very nice)) main battery and 2 protek 3600 sidesaddle. look at line 8478.
DJI_ASSISTANT_EXPORT_FILE_2017-12-19_11-01-49.FLY109.csv

5.03E+09 1031.023 1031100 -112.031 33.22663 18 5 390.8505 389.8459 118.8 0.00287 0.008404 -0.99857 0.998612 0.094283 1.073985 59.73888 59.74861 706 336 1339 1550 -0.01512 -0.0825 -0.05062 0.097963 0.083869 0.033235 0.027959 0.891858 -17.1115 342.8885 -235.943 -6.14339 266.9947 -24.7699 14209.08371 14223.64013 65.04 GoHome OTHER RC_ONEKEY_GOHOME ALREADY Connected Sport -112.03 33.22642 20171219 162911 2018-01-19T16:29:11Z 468.369 60 98 577 12 6 0 0 0 0 Hover 85.71429 Connected -111.894 33.28349 30 3.799 3.804 3.776 5.312 11.375 69 3692 2540 26 0.028 60.424 -0.064 5.498 2.65566 11.118 13.093 12.13446 -0.82554 64.1956 37.87128 OK 156 13 1823 47 Off 6820 6837 6080 6820 37 30 45 45 1630 1638 1570 1606 63 64.1 55.7 60.4 11.3 11 11.2 11 4.56 4.45 2.55 2.68 0 0 0 0 -136.316
Thanks
Phxbird57
 
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@JakeMaxxUAV
Jake not sure if you will take this or not understandable. Been having bad luck with my data files from my phone either it is deleted or today my app frozen up but before it froze it shown drone disconnected. I was 8400 ft out and only thing I had to go from was the LED from the controller. My video on board did record the full flight. This file is from 12.19.17 I flow out to 46617ft and back no problem. the problem in I had 25% battery and went out for a quick short flight. ended up running out of battery and losing the data file on my phone. this is the data file from the drone. Used datcon to convert it to csv file. Ground is flat nothing over 20 except for power lines. running just a battery mode ( plug in from you (very nice)) main battery and 2 protek 3600 sidesaddle. look at line 8478.
DJI_ASSISTANT_EXPORT_FILE_2017-12-19_11-01-49.FLY109.csv
I'm not an expert but even I can tell by this file that you flew out to 46,617 feet and back to home point, then went back out to 8,763 feet and turned around again to come back 186 feet short of home point.

Edit: Great Flight, by the way!
 
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@JakeMaxxUAV
Jake not sure if you will take this or not understandable. Been having bad luck with my data files from my phone either it is deleted or today my app frozen up but before it froze it shown drone disconnected. I was 8400 ft out and only thing I had to go from was the LED from the controller. My video on board did record the full flight. This file is from 12.19.17 I flow out to 46617ft and back no problem. the problem in I had 25% battery and went out for a quick short flight. ended up running out of battery and losing the data file on my phone. this is the data file from the drone. Used datcon to convert it to csv file. Ground is flat nothing over 20 except for power lines. running just a battery mode ( plug in from you (very nice)) main battery and 2 protek 3600 sidesaddle. look at line 8478.
DJI_ASSISTANT_EXPORT_FILE_2017-12-19_11-01-49.FLY109.csv

5.03E+09 1031.023 1031100 -112.031 33.22663 18 5 390.8505 389.8459 118.8 0.00287 0.008404 -0.99857 0.998612 0.094283 1.073985 59.73888 59.74861 706 336 1339 1550 -0.01512 -0.0825 -0.05062 0.097963 0.083869 0.033235 0.027959 0.891858 -17.1115 342.8885 -235.943 -6.14339 266.9947 -24.7699 14209.08371 14223.64013 65.04 GoHome OTHER RC_ONEKEY_GOHOME ALREADY Connected Sport -112.03 33.22642 20171219 162911 2018-01-19T16:29:11Z 468.369 60 98 577 12 6 0 0 0 0 Hover 85.71429 Connected -111.894 33.28349 30 3.799 3.804 3.776 5.312 11.375 69 3692 2540 26 0.028 60.424 -0.064 5.498 2.65566 11.118 13.093 12.13446 -0.82554 64.1956 37.87128 OK 156 13 1823 47 Off 6820 6837 6080 6820 37 30 45 45 1630 1638 1570 1606 63 64.1 55.7 60.4 11.3 11 11.2 11 4.56 4.45 2.55 2.68 0 0 0 0 -136.316
Thanks
Phxbird57
Are you on Android?
 
Are you on Android?
yes android and today like I said my app froze up I got a screen shot after I landed(I cant seem to get the keys right to do a screen shot while flying).
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I'm glad it did not happen 8 miles out. I've done 4 miles out with out a camera but had a compass ( arrow) showing which way is north. with just the led there is no compass just speed and distance. at first I thought I lost it. then I seen on the led the distance was moving in.
 
I'm not an expert but even I can tell by this file that you flew out to 46,617 feet and back to home point, then went back out to 8,763 feet and turned around again to come back 186 feet short of home point.

Edit: Great Flight, by the way!
And thank you
 
I'll have the video of todays flight after I piece the data to a smaller file so Dashware can handle it
 
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