RANT against cruise ships
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hiflyer201
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Dale, Thanks for the reply. I sure agree with you on drones and travel. To paraphrase an old saying, one drone shot is worth a thousand photos.
mobilehomer
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Not necessarily. I have friends staying on the Gulf Coast this summer. They had a drone hover outside their 25th floor condo, looking inside for several minutes. Very disturbing. So there ARE those maroons.
One can only imagine how many idiots who don’t know what they are doing would fly their drone:
- While the ship is underway in strong winds
- Taking off from a balcony
- Crash into passengers trying to land
- Crash into some part of the ship, causing damage
- Drop their drone down the exhaust vents
- Land their drone in some very inaccessible part of the ship which would require crew time and effort to recover.
I have written to a number of cruise lines, including Disney, I have had one cruise line say that they can make an exception for me (part 107 certified) and Disney are passing my email on to the relevant departure, may I humbly suggest that we blitz the cruise companies asking why drones are on the prohibited list along with guns and fireworks
It’s not that drones are not allowed to be flown from the ships, it’s that they are prohibited from being taken onboard
drhitch54
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Any time you want to watch a drone video from some distant port of call, all you have to do is go to airvuz.com....they have video droned every inch of the planet! Ok, so it's not YOUR own drone perspective, but it's really good footage.
Oh, and I suspect that a cruise line will quarantine your drone until you go ashore. But they may feel a bit responsible for you if you get locked up in some foreign jail.....
Oh, and I suspect that a cruise line will quarantine your drone until you go ashore. But they may feel a bit responsible for you if you get locked up in some foreign jail.....
Seriously? Falling from the sky, a drone could easily achieve a speed of 100mph (160kilometers/hour). Would you like 800g hitting you at that speed?
Exactly, if you allow passenger to carry them onboard, you can could the minutes before some idiot flies one from the ship
I can also see why they might ban drones for a group tour. In that case they are often moving a collection of people along at a reasonable pace to be on schedule. This would not be the case for privately booked tours. It would seem reasonable to ban use from the ship and group tours, but not so much for his private tour. I expect if an individual got sideways with the local law the cruise ship would be within their legal right to leave him behind at that port.
example, say someone flys their drone while onboard, or even during a cruise shore excursion. When attempting to land, they fly the drone into a fellow passenger, hitting the, in the face, causing a serious cut and a scar. That passenger would want to sue, they could sue the passenger, who operated the drone, but let’s face it, they aren’t going to get much from them.
The problem is the cruise line, having the deep pockets, would be the target of the lawsuit. Hence the ban on bringing them onboard,
To further complicate things, if it’s a cruise ship doing overseas ports, each country has different rules, permit requirements, restrictions for specific areas like historic landmarks, etc. I had to go through the process to get a permit for the UK. Canada requires I file a permit request before each trip to Canada, detailing information about locations, dates, etc. While this might be manageable if I was going to one country for a week, for seven countries in seven days, it would be a massive task.
I am fortunate to live in Michigan where we have a state law on the books that prohibits county or local municipalities from enacting their own drone ordinances. Michigan is a state where you are allowed to fly a drone within the state forests and parks,
Other states have a much more of a patchwork set of regulation.
Now imagine this magnified across multiple countries
I am fortunate to live in Michigan where we have a state law on the books that prohibits county or local municipalities from enacting their own drone ordinances. Michigan is a state where you are allowed to fly a drone within the state forests and parks,
Other states have a much more of a patchwork set of regulation.
Now imagine this magnified across multiple countries
Paul Stocum
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I’m a Licensed drone pilot, professional photographer and an ex cruise ship employee for 5 years back in he 80’s to 90’s. The last thing I would want to see is a passenger left with the ability to decide a safe time/location on a ship to fly.
I agree with Dale. Most of us who seriously fly our drones know to check for all regulations regarding where and when we can fly. Even in foreign countries. My drone goes with me everywhere. No cruise or vacation is desireable to me if I have to leave my drone at home.
I get increasingly annoyed by all these new rules and regulations affecting the majority due to a few incompetent idiots in the minority! I recently went on a Marella cruise to the Caribbean and then stayed in Barbados for a week - I applied through Barbados Government online portal for permission to fly giving dates and places I intended to fly - uploaded proof of Pilot ID and drone operator ID and Liability insurance (via drone cover club in UK) and was given permission to fly - so I abided by the rules and was allowed to fly - Simple solution - make similar rules worldwide and fine any unothorisednpilots £1,000’s or $1,000’s. And it will soon be nipped in the bud. Similarly there has been talk in UK of limiting passengers on airlines to maximum two drinks each before they can board the plane? Why? Simply enforce a new law if you’re disruptive on a plane you’re banned for flying for ten years and fined £1,000s or $1,000’s that will soon stop it and penalise the minority that spoil it for everyone else!
Paul Stocum
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As a licensed drone pilot, professional photographer, and 5 years experienced as a cruise ship employee, I fully understand and support the cruise line drone ban. For every responsible drone operator, there will be at least 3 idiots that won’t use common sense. We used to talk about how often people would seemingly unhinge their brain on vacation, in particular on a cruise. Then combine unlimited drinking on board, recipe for disaster.
As to the comment about photographers on board vs. privacy from drone captures. Photographers on board don’t take your photo without your active participation.
It is totally for liability reasons, and for the safety of the passengers. I don’t know if there is any blow back to the cruise line from illegally flying in a destination port, but that could be a possibility to consider. While in port, the ship is completely under the local rule of law.
As to the comment about photographers on board vs. privacy from drone captures. Photographers on board don’t take your photo without your active participation.
It is totally for liability reasons, and for the safety of the passengers. I don’t know if there is any blow back to the cruise line from illegally flying in a destination port, but that could be a possibility to consider. While in port, the ship is completely under the local rule of law.
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