RID where the heck is it?

[Buzzed]

So I have a new DJI mini 4 pro, just registered at DJI and added the 2-year insurance package. Have the TRUST certificate in hand and now since I ordered the plus batteries need to go to the FAADRONEZONE to register it, however can’t seem to locate the remote ID number necessary. In the transmitter upper right hand corner I tap on the 3-dots, then about, but there is nothing even mentioned about RID let alone numbers.
The batteries are not marked with the 249gram marking's so they must be the plus, so where’s the remote ID number necessary?

 

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RID is a dog-tracking collar for your drone.

RID number is the drone serial number. Use that when registering.

 

[Buzzed]

Serial number, now understood. Thanks a bunch!

 

[Cafguy]

What they told you: RID is a transmission sent by your Drone with a unique signature(number) that can be used to track Drones that are busting regulations or considered a threat.

What you got: A device that emits a signal for short distances that pretty much does nothing but emit a transmission that people bored enough with life to download an app can only see. A dog collar for your Drone LOL!
The People responsible to monitor these transmissions (the FAA) have neither the equipment, people, nor Budget to actually implement RID in the way it was sold. and to make it more of a punch in the stomach... The government already posseses a system to do what RID proposed, Its called Aerial Archer and that only needs the controllers signal to pinpoint you fast.

What they knew it was: A tax on Part 107 Drone operators!

 

[Buzzed]

Eas

What they told you: RID is a transmission sent by your Drone with a unique signature(number) that can be used to track Drones that are busting regulations or considered a threat.

What you got: A device that emits a signal for short distances that pretty much does nothing but emit a transmission that people bored enough with life to download an app can only see. A dog collar for your Drone LOL!
The People responsible to monitor these transmissions (the FAA) have neither the equipment, people, nor Budget to actually implement RID in the way it was sold. and to make it more of a punch in the stomach... The government already posseses a system to do what RID proposed, Its called Aerial Archer and that only needs the controllers signal to pinpoint you fast.

What they knew it was: A tax on Part 107 Drone operators!

Sounds like easy money for them

 

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@Cafguy, can only partially agree.

IMO, the other, equal or more important goal of RID is implementing an autonomous airspace and deconfliction system for the anticipated jazillion commercial delivery drones that are coming.

 

[djwak59]

What they told you: RID is a transmission sent by your Drone with a unique signature(number) that can be used to track Drones that are busting regulations or considered a threat.

What you got: A device that emits a signal for short distances that pretty much does nothing but emit a transmission that people bored enough with life to download an app can only see. A dog collar for your Drone LOL!
The People responsible to monitor these transmissions (the FAA) have neither the equipment, people, nor Budget to actually implement RID in the way it was sold. and to make it more of a punch in the stomach... The government already posseses a system to do what RID proposed, Its called Aerial Archer and that only needs the controllers signal to pinpoint you fast.

What they knew it was: A tax on Part 107 Drone operators!

I’m not 107 but I do stick to the rules “most” of the time and some rules all the time.
With the current situation of events and brewing mass hysteria generated by certain political people, I find the whole RID thing pretty useless right now. It’s showing how ineffective it and FAA enforcement actually is. I KNOW there’s a bunch of people here who would smack me down over this but, sorry, right now I don’t see ANY drone pilots being fined a million dollars or the FAA making any arrests either with help law enforcement.
95% of these sightings are regular aircraft. Just my 2 cents on all this craziness going on.

 

[eEridani]

The entire FAA drone system is in contortions right now. Use to private and commercial human carrying aircraft pilots who by and large are conscientious law abiding citizens - they are moving into regulating products bought up by people who really don't care if they abuse the rules. They are struggling to contain what amounts to Pandora's box having been opened.

Once the Remote Identification system is honed, I full anticipate your local governments to set restrictions and local police department will begin sending tickets to folk who intrude over a park or road or anything the town fathers denote a drone free zone. I hope I am wrong, but revenue is revenue and I see this as an easy to catch/prosecute example of new ways to fund government. Of course, we can also hope the FAA makes this sort of outcome illegal due to the certainty there will be too many delivery drones ignoring said local rules, or immune to them.

 

[Buzzed]

Well with companies like WalMart, Amazon, UPS, and the like there will certainly be a ton more drone traffic delivering packages. I compare it to your local driving laws, if somebody blows through a stop sign and there isn’t a cop to see it happen then it goes unnoticed and if you see it and call it in it’s your word against theirs unless of course you’re driving a Tesla with 8 cameras running all the time. There won’t be enough enforcement from any entity to enforce these rules/laws IMHO.

 

[MS Coast]

They are struggling to contain what amounts to Pandora out of the box.

Pandora wasn't in the box, and the box was actually a jar or urn that was a gift from the Greek gods. Pandora opened it and released death, pestilence, and some other nasty things. I'm hereby starting a rumor that the mysterious lights in the sky were among them. Stand by for a Youtube video with a couple of self-professed experts.

 

[eEridani]

Pandora wasn't in the box, a[snip]

And I thought I was pedantic --- lmao.

ps: fixed it.

 

[Buzzed]

Dr. Steven Greer will set you straight. He thinks we’ll know the outcome of all these happenings within 30-days. I’m not holding my breath how about you?

 

[eEridani]

Well with companies like WalMart, Amazon, UPS, and the like there will certainly be a ton more drone traffic delivering packages. I compare it to your local driving laws, if somebody blows through a stop sign and there isn’t a cop to see it happen then it goes unnoticed and if you see it and call it in it’s your word against theirs unless of course you’re driving a Tesla with 8 cameras running all the time. There won’t be enough enforcement from any entity to enforce these rules/laws IMHO.

I am in the mind set the affiliated costs of drone delivery will make it not happen. At least for a while. What drone will fly under my entryway to place the package in a semi-secure location? I do not want, nor will I pay for, a drone delivery that parks my package at the sidewalk.

And the US and Europe has things called Traffic Cams (or similar names); no LEO needs to be there, and the ticket is sent via post. With Remote Identification, the drone self reports illegal flight when broadcasting things like altitude and location if it is indeed over 400' agl or inside restricted airspace.

 

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Once the Remote Identification system is honed, I full anticipate your local governments to set restrictions and local police department will begin sending tickets to folk who intrude over a park or road or anything the town fathers denote a drone free zone. I hope I am wrong, but revenue is revenue and I see this as an easy to catch/prosecute example of new ways to fund government. Of course, we can also hope the FAA makes this sort of outcome illegal due to the certainty there will be too many delivery drones ignoring said local rules, or immune to them.

And secret gubmint agencies are responsible for the mysterious nighttime sightings in NJ. Same paranoid mindset.

The prediction of RID leading to Gestapo opression of drone hobbyists has been giving some members vapors for what, now, 5 years? Look at all the prosecutions!

RID will never be a widespread tool used by local authorities to make sure hobbyists are abiding every regulation without fail. They neither have the resources, nor the interest.

It's a technology developed for autonomous airspace management as commercial use significantly increases, and aprehension of truly serious violators, like flying over a football stadium full of people.

There will never come a time anyone will be found with RID and punished for an innocuous BVLOS violation. Or any other number of inconsequential "violations" of the rules that happen with regularity.

For example, I'm not worried to admit I fly FPV without a spotter regularly. But then when I do, there's absolutely no chance at all of anything more adverse occurring than my drone crashing and getting damaged.

 

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I am in the mind set the affiliated costs of drone delivery will make it not happen. At least for a while. What drone will fly under my entryway to place the package in a semi-secure location? I do not want, nor will I pay for, a drone delivery that parks my package at the sidewalk.

Drone delivery is about time, not cost. If you need it ASAP, you'll be willing to pay to get it asap, perhaps even much more than the value of what's being delivered. If your manufacturing line is down, you're losing $10,000/hr until it's up and running, and you need a $25 part from the Thingamajibbet™ warehouse.

They can get it to you by drone in 30 minutes. Ground, that time of day with traffic is optimistically 2½ hours. Delivery fee $150 by drone, $25.00 fast courier.

You'll pay the $150, and send a Google map pin for where someone will be waiting to recieve the delivery.

 

[eEridani]

I'm not thinking anything beyond what local governments have done in the past and might do with drones in a similar manner.

Your point about the special delivery is taken, but not sure that will be cost effective enough for companies to start up their own drone delivery programs in the first place. Perhaps a third party will offer delivery, like DoorDash becoming DroneDash... that almost makes sense. Then again, I always underestimate the size and value of markets like these.

 

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DroneDash... I like it

 

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Keep in mind this sort of urgent delivery already has players on the ground. The market already exists and has players making a profit serving it.

A market doesn't have to be large to support viability. All that needs to occur is a vendor simply needs to make enough money ("enough" is defined by them) to make it worthwhile.

The scenario I described above happens more than people know. That 2 hour difference in the example represents $20k... $5,000 for that drone delivery would be worth it.

 

[Torque]

Walmart is currently doing drone deliveries in select markets. They contract with Drone Up for the service.

 

[MS Coast]

And I thought I was pedantic --- lmao.

ps: fixed it.

Well, heck. I figured this thread needed one comment that more than one person could agree on.

A writer friend and I have been enjoying the way language is evolving (or eroding), including the way old sayings and phrases get tweaked. Hone in on something. Picking on high cotton. A pig in a poker. And there's the way voice recognition perverts the written version of what someone said. Lot's of examples from folks here who dictate to their phones.

It's the continuation of the way music lyrics get misunderstood. Instead of Creedence Clearwater Revival's "There's a bad moon on the rise." some folks heard and sang along with, "There's a bathroom on the right." Maybe Iron Butterfly triggered it all with "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" back in 1968. (Google it, youngsters.)