Mini 5 Pro is Broadcasting RID with ALL Batteries, Including the Mini 5 Pro Standard Battery

[GadgetGuy]

Mini 5 Pro is Broadcasting RID with ALL Batteries in the U.S., Including the Mini 5 Pro Standard Battery

DJI is claiming they know nothing about this, and claims that any Mini 5 Pro that is broadcasting RID with the Standard battery in the U.S. must be defective!

Yet, we know, from everyone that knows how to properly test for RID, that it is still broadcasting RID with the standard battery in the U.S..

Is there anyone who owns a Mini 5 Pro in the U.S., who has both Plus and Standard batteries, who can detect RID with the Plus battery but not with the Standard battery?

You have to first be able to successfully detect RID from any drone, including the Mini 5 Pro, before you can state for certain that the Mini 5 Pro is not broadcasting RID in the U.S. with the standard battery. Otherwise, just because you cannot detect it doesn't mean it isn't broadcasting, if your method of detecting is flawed. Hence the need for first being able to positively detect RID on any drone before testing for RID detection with the Mini 5 Pro standard battery in the U.S.

I am using the $1100 Dronetag RIDER, so I know my Mini 5 Pro is still broadcasting with the standard battery. The Drone Scanner app on Android supposedly also works, and you should also be able to use a laptop or PC to search for available Wifi networks to connect to, and the drone serial number will show up as a wifi networks when RID is being broadcast after arming the motors. Also, upon drone bootup, when RID is being broadcast, you will see an RID Status Normal under the drone status in the Fly app. If no RID is being broadcast, nothing about RID will appear in the app under drone status.

RiD is not actively transmitted until the motors are armed.

Dozens of others online have confirmed the same.

It's clearly a bug in the current latest Firmware that DJI needs to fix, but so far, they are still denying that it is even a known issue, despite numerous confirmations everywhere, and others reporting it to DJI.DJI apparently silos all support issues so that they are never logged cumulatively based upon the issue. Seems silly, but that's what's currently happening.

If you are able to also verify the RID broadcasting with the standard battery in the U.S., please call DJI at 818-235-0789 and report this bug. The more bug reports, the merrier, and the sooner DJI will accept this as a known issue, and finally get to fixing it.

 

[wild bill]

Mini 5 Pro is Broadcasting RID with ALL Batteries in the U.S., Including the Mini 5 Pro Standard Battery

DJI is claiming they know nothing about this, and claims that any Mini 5 Pro that is broadcasting RID with the Standard battery in the U.S. must be defective!

Yet, we know, from everyone that knows how to properly test for RID, that it is still broadcasting RID with the standard battery in the U.S..

Is there anyone who owns a Mini 5 Pro in the U.S., who has both Plus and Standard batteries, who can detect RID with the Plus battery but not with the Standard battery?

You have to first be able to successfully detect RID from any drone, including the Mini 5 Pro, before you can state for certain that the Mini 5 Pro is not broadcasting RID in the U.S. with the standard battery. Otherwise, just because you cannot detect it doesn't mean it isn't broadcasting, if your method of detecting is flawed. Hence the need for first being able to positively detect RID on any drone before testing for RID detection with the Mini 5 Pro standard battery in the U.S.

I am using the $1100 Dronetag RIDER, so I know my Mini 5 Pro is still broadcasting with the standard battery. The Drone Scanner app on Android supposedly also works, and you should also be able to use a laptop or PC to search for available Wifi networks to connect to, and the drone serial number will show up as a wifi networks when RID is being broadcast after arming the motors. Also, upon drone bootup, when RID is being broadcast, you will see an RID Status Normal under the drone status in the Fly app. If no RID is being broadcast, nothing about RID will appear in the app under drone status.

RiD is not actively transmitted until the motors are armed.

Dozens of others online have confirmed the same.

It's clearly a bug in the current latest Firmware that DJI needs to fix, but so far, they are still denying that it is even a known issue, despite numerous confirmations everywhere, and others reporting it to DJI.DJI apparently silos all support issues so that they are never logged cumulatively based upon the issue. Seems silly, but that's what's currently happening.

If you are able to also verify the RID broadcasting with the standard battery in the U.S., please call DJI at 818-235-0789 and report this bug. The more bug reports, the merrier, and the sooner DJI will accept this as a known issue, and finally get to fixing it.

My mini 3 pro does the same with both batteries.

 

[smbishop]

I wish my Mini 4 Pro would broadcast RID with my standard battery.

 

[YorksPhotos]

I wish my Mini 4 Pro would broadcast RID with my standard battery.

Can you explain why? I dont know of any benefits for the pilot having RID broadcasting.

 

[rgarjr]

Can you explain why? I dont know of any benefits for the pilot having RID broadcasting.

107 pilots need to broadcast regardless if it’s less than 250g.

 

[wco81]

How do you tell, is there an app you can check to see if your aircraft is broadcasting?

 

[mavic3usa]

Can you explain why? I dont know of any benefits for the pilot having RID broadcasting.

There are no benefits for the recreational pilot.

For the part 107, not sure why they need to reap benefits from both size batteries, why can't the Plus battery be a "part 107 battery?" Otherwise, every good part 107 should have one inexpensive external RID module since all part 107 drones are required. If you are "forced" to use the "recreational" battery, attach the module.

 

[mavic3usa]

How do you tell, is there an app you can check to see if your aircraft is broadcasting?

IMO, it's too difficult to tell one way or another unless you are using very expensive equipment. Other methods (like using your mobile phone and an app) are too unreliable and too many variables. After all, how can you confirm that your drone is *not* broadcasting....just because no one can hear it doesn't mean it.

Either way, the pilot is not responsible for the proper RID implementation and operation when your drone has been issued a valid FAA RID DoC. The drone must not lift off if there is an error with RID. The pilots only responsibility is to land as soon as possible if RID error is detected in flight. Because what's next? Do pilots need to verify the correct RID details are being broadcast per regulations?

As others have mentioned so often in so many other threads, no one is checking and the odds of getting caught are super tiny and I agree with them that RID is not something any drone pilot should worry about after they properly register.

 

[smbishop]

There are no benefits for the recreational pilot.

For the part 107, not sure why they need to reap benefits from both size batteries, why can't the Plus battery be a "part 107 battery?" Otherwise, every good part 107 should have one inexpensive external RID module since all part 107 drones are required. If you are "forced" to use the "recreational" battery, attach the module.

My understanding as a recreational pilot in the U.S. is that if I am using the Plus batteries, then the Mini 4 Pro is over 249 grams and it has to be registered. Once it is registered, my understanding is that it has to broadcast RID, which it does not do on the standard battery.

 

[Dave Pitman]

There are no benefits for the recreational pilot.

For the part 107, not sure why they need to reap benefits from both size batteries, why can't the Plus battery be a "part 107 battery?" Otherwise, every good part 107 should have one inexpensive external RID module since all part 107 drones are required. If you are "forced" to use the "recreational" battery, attach the module.

Currently, for commercial ops, the FAA requires a unique RID module for each aircraft that needs one. Not the 1 module for all aircraft like with recreational. Supposedly they are considering changing this, but as of now, that's the way it is. So guys would probably not like to buy modules if they don't have to.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/remote_id#:~:text=If%20you%20use%20a%20Remote%20ID%20broadcast,will%20be%20assigned%20a%20unique%20registration%20number.

 

[Dave Pitman]

Mini 5 Pro is Broadcasting RID with ALL Batteries in the U.S., Including the Mini 5 Pro Standard Battery

Aren't all Mini 5's over 249g with any battery?

 

[YorksPhotos]

107 pilots need to broadcast regardless if it’s less than 250g.

OK, got it. I am 107 but wouldn't use the M5P for commercial work. I am sure it is very capable but doesn't have the professional drone appearance. This is my first mini and trying to get over its toy like look.

 

[GadgetGuy]

How do you tell, is there an app you can check to see if your aircraft is broadcasting?

Multiple ways. See below. However, unless you can first see detection of a drone you know is broadcasting RID by any one of the means listed below, your inability to detect RID is inconclusive, because you may not be detecting correctly. RID is not actively transmitted until the motors are armed.

Three ways, in addition to using a Dronetag RIDER:

1. The Drone Scanner app on Android works at close range, but not on iOS.

2. You should also be able to use a laptop or PC to search for available Wifi networks to connect to, and the drone serial number will show up as an available wifi network when RID is being broadcast, after arming the motors.

3. Also, upon drone bootup, even before arming the motors, when RID is being broadcast, you will see a "Remote ID Status Normal" under the drone status in the Fly app in the upper left, indicating RID will be broadcasting during flight. If no RID is being broadcast, nothing about the Remote ID status at all will ever appear in the app, under drone status at any time.

If you have a Mini 4 Pro with both regular and Plus Mini 4 Pro batteries, it will broadcast RID with the Plus battery but not with the Mini 4 Plus regular battery. I confirmed this with the Dronetag RIDER. This is exactly how the Mini 5 Pro is supposed to operate with the Mini 5 Pro batteries, except there is no difference. All types and weights of batteries in the Mini 5 Pro still broadcast RID, even though the Mini 5 Plus Standard battery is supposed to prevent RID broadcasting, according to the User Manual.

 

[GadgetGuy]

Aren't all Mini 5's over 249g with any battery?

That's separate issue, but no, not all Mini 5 Pro's. Some YouTube reviewers reportedly received units that were under 250g with the standard battery, and weighing them confirmed it.

My assumption was that because DJI could not guarantee 249g, and also left that 249g designation off the M5P standard battery, unlike the Mini 4 Pro, that RID would have to be broadcast.

However, the M5P User Manual clearly states, and DJI USA Support and their "knowledgeable" technicians currently still maintain as of Friday that using the Regular Intelligent Battery does not activate the Remote ID system, will not broadcast RID, and is not intended to broadcast RID, Further, if it does, you have a defective Mini 5 Pro, and should return it to the seller for a refund!

The Emperor is wearing no clothes!
This is clearly a bug.
Under the most current FW, the M5P is not properly detecting the regular battery in the U.S. and preventing RID from broadcasting.

DJI needs to either confirm it is a known issue, and fix it, or admit that the User Manual and their technicians are all wrong, and it is operating as intended!

They cannot have it both ways and maintain that every unit is defective!
No one who knows how to properly detect RID has yet found any Mini 5 Pro in the U.S. that is not still broadcasting RID with the regular Mini 5 Pro battery.

 

[Cafguy]

WOW This is good to know and something that I started to read about after this post. This seems to be affecting alot of Mini 5 owners. No one has quite pinned down the exact problem BUT my 2 choices would be a firmware issue. ( Many reported that the issue started after the update,) OR Bad manufacturing. Some users have weighed their batteries only to find that a few (but not all) of their standard Batteries weighed more than others.

 

[GadgetGuy]

WOW This is good to know and something that I started to read about after this post. This seems to be effecting alot of Mini 5 owners. No one has quite pinned down the exact problem BUT my 2 choices would be a firmware issue. ( Many reported that the issue started after the update,) OR Bad manufacturing. Some users have weighed their batteries only to find that a few (but not all) of their standard Batteries weighed more than others.

To my knowledge, all Mini 5 Pro units in the U.S. are broadcasting RID, regardless of which battery is used. The regular battery is supposed to prevent RID from being broadcast. It doesn't, despite the User Manual and DJI USA claiming it will.

The biggest problem is that people flying with the regular battery are completely unaware they are still broadcasting RID, especially if they deliberately selected the Mini 5 Pro with all regular batteries to prevent broadcasting RID. Unfortunately. they are not sophisticated enough to be able to test and realize this. If they use some iOS drone scanning app, nothing shows up, because DJI RID is Wifi, not BT, and Apple ecosystem will not allow the Wifi RID detection. They must use an Android app like Drone Scanner at close range after arming the motors.

The second biggest problem is because so few people are aware of the problem, DJI is still completely in denial about it even existing, claiming no one else has ever reported it to them. They therefore are also refusing to try and reproduce the problem on their end, by simply flying a Mini 5 Pro with a regular battery in the U.S.!

This can undoubtedly be fixed with a FW update, but not until DJI accepts that it is happening! So far, they are still playing dumb.

 

[Cafguy]

OR Maybe just Maybe its a manufacturing defect, One that will end up causing them too replace a bunch of drones or batteries and they are stonewalling on this. I have read about people weighing their 2 mini 5's side by side only to get different numbers!