Can you?? Fly to 5000 feet??

[hank970]

Pretty interesting stuff. Assuming you are a part 107 pilot and you spring the hundreds of dollars for the Transponder that the FAA is going to demand. not to mention the parachute (the FAA certified chute) that will probably be required.
If what you are doing could be done any other way, I don't see you getting permission BUT good luck all they can do is say no.
and anyone that would attempt this without permission deserves everything the FAA can deal out to them.
I would say come out here to the desert and apply to do it!
Just may happen if you go out far enough!
I know a guy that made a video (with the proper paperwork) of him flying his drone miles away from himself as his buddies followed it in a dune buggy. lol

They can say "no," and they can also flag your name as someone to keep an eye on because you seem intent on pushing the envelope.

 

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They can say "no," and they can also flag your name as someone to keep an eye on because you seem intent on pushing the envelope.

Very unlikely. We aren't even gnats to the FAA. They haven't the resources to "keep an eye" on ever drone pilot that submits inquiries, extraordinary or not.

 

[Bad Santa]

They can say "no," and they can also flag your name as someone to keep an eye on because you seem intent on pushing the envelope.

Really? Why would someone flag a person as someone to keep an eye on for asking questions or applying for permits?
Sometimes I wish I could spend a day being that paranoid. Just to see what it's like. Just one day, though.

 

[Cafguy]

The Government wont "flag" you lol lots of people every year try in vain to get permission its no big deal.

 

[mavic3usa]

Really? Why would someone flag a person as someone to keep an eye on for asking questions or applying for permits?
Sometimes I wish I could spend a day being that paranoid. Just to see what it's like. Just one day, though.

I think just the opposite. We spend all day everyday being paranoid to the point we just don't care any longer. I know I'm on a bunch of lists. So are you. So I gave it up decades ago. At this point, the only list that we should be concerned about is the SO Registry and the T. Watch List or No Fly List you don't want to be on those. Otherwise, it's naive to think with a bazillion petaflops of government data collected on all citizens, they aren't interested in us? No one is actively collecting anything; it's just "collected." So there's nothing left to be paranoid about and AI will eventually figure out if you're up to no good when you apply for permits or show up at government officers or even drive by the police station.

 

[Bad Santa]

I think just the opposite. We spend all day everyday being paranoid to the point we just don't care any longer. I know I'm on a bunch of lists. So are you. So I gave it up decades ago. At this point, the only list that we should be concerned about is the SO Registry and the T. Watch List or No Fly List you don't want to be on those. Otherwise, it's naive to think with a bazillion petaflops of government data collected on all citizens, they aren't interested in us? No one is actively collecting anything; it's just "collected." So there's nothing left to be paranoid about and AI will eventually figure out if you're up to no good when you apply for permits or show up at government officers or even drive by the police station.

I don't know about you but I sent special Holiday wishes to the FBI agent(s) that monitor everything I do.

 

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I don't know about you but I sent special Holiday wishes to the FBI agent(s) that monitor everything I do.

I sent each of the dozen agents that stake out my house a Harry and David fruitcake.

 

[hank970]

Really? Why would someone flag a person as someone to keep an eye on for asking questions or applying for permits?
Sometimes I wish I could spend a day being that paranoid. Just to see what it's like. Just one day, though.

It's not the act of asking questions or permission that might raise flags but the content, intent, and persistence of the inquiries. For example, you can bet that agencies take a keen interest in folks who have a history of perusing the web for information about explosives and explosive devices or about a person's interest or association with terrorist groups. They may not act immediately on such inquiries, but if there's an incident, they'll dig up every scrap of information about a defendant's interests and search habits afterward to bolster prosecutorial success. If they can demonstrate a defendant's pattern of attempts to push the envelope, they'll use that information.

Consider the perpetrators in the recent terrorist attacks in New Orleans and Las Vegas. Both men died and won't be prosecuted, but if they had lived, the authorities would be armed with a treasure trove of information about their beliefs, grudges, and online activity, and associations. That's why search warrants or searches incident to arrest focus on seizing personal computers and the like.

I have no idea how seriously the FAA considers requests to fly drones in ways or locations that are normally considered beyond the bounds, but if a person has a habit of making such requests and there's a record of them on a mainframe somewhere, it'll be dredged up if and when needed to make a prosecution.

I suspect that a citizen's request to fly a drone to an altitude of 5000 feet AGL is so far out of the ordinary that it might raise a few agency eyebrows. So would a request to fly over the White House or any other sensitive site. It can't hurt to ask, though, can it? Can it?

This isn't the first thread on this site where you've hinted at or raised questions about challenging the limits of permissible activity. Keep it up and you might learn the difference between paranoia and prudence.

 

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Here's where you go off the rails: Asking about how to legally and properly take a drone to 5000ft isn't comparable to researching explosives or looking into terrorism.

Really, not being able to see this difference is a bit unhinged. I guarantee the authorities know the difference, and therefore know where it would be an indefensible waste of limited resources to expend them.

Now, ask the FAA how to properly knock out someone by flying a drone full speed at their head, and that will get noticed. THAT'S akin to researching bombs on line.

 

[Cafguy]

Thank goodness we live in the U.S. If I apply for a bunch of waivers that "sound" Strange or would raise alarm bells ( and I am sure I have) you may be rejected, but legally that's as far as it goes.
The facts are that any government entity, or employee. cannot just start an investigation on a "whim"..They must have some cause.
A Terrorists web history is rarely known until they are caught and the device retrieved etc.... You are not being watched by a room full of morality police!

I suspect that a citizen's request to fly a drone to an altitude of 5000 feet AGL is so far out of the ordinary that it might raise a few agency eyebrows.

not as rare as you would think.

 

[Bad Santa]

Criminals don't ask for permission first.

 

[mavic3usa]

Criminals don't ask for permission first.

Which is why the criminals never end up on the list until *after* they are caught.

Only the honest law-abiding citizens get put on a list.

 

[akdrone]

I don’t think there’s any way to get to 5000 feet your drone will not let you if you are flying a DJI drone. You can however climb to 3000 feet or nearly to as I have done many times and you can do it legally by moving up a mountain side and remaining 400 feet a AGL. I can only pull this off in the winter time when I can still see my dark drone against a pristine white background. I can’t actually make it to 3000 feet and continue to see it but I can get close in the winter against a white background. I have to follow it all the time and it is nothing more than a tiny spec. I would never see if I didn’t follow it. I used to fly hang gliders and did so full-time. At 5000 feet against a simple sky even a hang glider is what we called specked out. Use of a strobe light even during the day will help you keep it insight. I guess all of that is just a long way of saying no.

 

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I don’t think there’s any way to get to 5000 feet your drone will not let you if you are flying a DJI drone.

If you get a waiver from the FAA, you can get an unlock from DJI that will remove the 500m ceiling. Altitude limits can be unlocked just like location restrictions.

 

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I used to fly hang letters and did so full-time.

I used to fly hang gliders in my youth. I wanted to try Hang Letters, but they just looked too fragile and dangerous to me. And depending who they were addressed to, you could find yourself far from the LZ.

 

[akdrone]

I used to fly hang gliders in my youth. I wanted to try Hang Letters, but they just looked too fragile and dangerous to me. And depending who they were addressed to, you could find yourself far from the LZ.

hah! I often talk into Siri and sometimes don't check.... good for a laugh I guess

 

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hah! I often talk into Siri and sometimes don't check.... good for a laugh I guess

I love malapropisms, human or AI.

Everyone should both laugh at, and never let one get away.

 

[DoomMeister]

I love malapropisms, human or AI.

Cool word! Does anyone remember Word Power from Readers Digest? It helped expand my vocabulary over the years.

 

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Cool word! Does anyone remember Word Power from Readers Digest? It helped expand my vocabulary over the years.

I do, but that's because you and I were around for women's suffrage.