DJI Mini 5 Pro in Amazon. Is this legit?

[MS Coast]

One Dronetag RIDER mounted on top of a roving car can immediately detect all Mavic 4 Pro pilots within several miles and target only the high value drones. RIDER cost is $1200. Each Mavic 4 Pro kit burgled is $2,500-$5,000. This could also be any more expensive Enterprise drone like a Matrice 4T or 4E or 30T, or Mavic 3T. Only need to find and snag one or two a day.

It's very easy for a thief to locate a person flying drones without RID if they're within sight or earshot. In the last decade, have there been any reports of anyone being robbed of their drone while they're out flying? How could that be if drones are such a good robbery target?

Perhaps the potential thieves know that stolen drones bound to a particular DJI account, is unusable and only good for parts.

RIDER has also only been available for less than 6 months. Give it time.

Five plus months and counting. Cue the fear of RIDER-equipped criminals tracking down drone pilots.

 

[GadgetGuy]

Huh?

Neither does RID.

Actually, RID does exactly that, when the drone/car is spotted in the air. It reveals the pilot's exact location from which they "drove" the drone, and where you will find the rest of the pilot’s gear and, whether it is in his car while distracted by flying, or at his home, if flying from home.

The car license plate tells you nothing about the driver's home address from which he drove, and to which he will eventually return. Big difference.

 

[GadgetGuy]

It's very easy for a thief to locate a person flying drones without RID if they're within sight or earshot.

Which is why VLOS was made a requirement, before RID. Now, with RID, that range can be up to 5 miles away, and reveals the exact make and model number of the drone being flown, and that pilot's exact location throughout the flight. Targeting high value drone pilots and their goods has now within reach of any smash and grab car burglsr. Since the drone and the remote will be together in the kit, and the log in is usually stored on the device, they are good to go!

RID broadcasting is the modern day Blue Book hit list!

The Hardest-Working Art Thief in History

The 'Social Register' was a who’s who of America’s rich and powerful—the heirs of robber barons, scions of political dynasties, and descendants of 'Mayflower' passengers. It was also the perfect hit list for the country’s hardest-working art thief.

magazine.atavist.com

 

[GadgetGuy]

Five plus months and counting. Cue the fear of RIDER-equipped criminals tracking down drone pilots.

Dronetag has a whole new niche to target, where the ROI is obvious!
It is really like a set of lock picks, except possession isn't a felony. It isn't even a misdemeanor. It's completely legal, thanks to the FAA RID requirement where anyone now has legal access to the publicly broadcasted RID information of the pilot's exact location and drone model number.

 

[MS Coast]

Dronetag has a whole new niche to target, where the ROI is obvious!
It is really like a set of lock picks, except possession isn't a felony. It isn't even a misdemeanor. It's completely legal, thanks to the FAA RID requirement where anyone now has legal access to the publicly broadcasted RID information of the pilot's exact location and drone model number.

Fear a prudent thing in moderation when a danger actually exists. It's a highly individual thing. I fear drunk drivers because they kill more than 12,000 of us each year. A real danger exists and the magnitude is significant.

On the other hand, I see a essentially no danger from RID-equipped criminals, and now RIDER-equipped criminals. I base that on the absence of any reported cases during the years I've been flying drones.

In their lifesaving courses, the Red Cross talks about "real and imagined danger." I think most folks would agree that differentiating between the two is a valuable ability. Yes, an RID-facilitated danger can be imagined, but but the magnitude during these past years has been insignificant. If there is an exponential increase in criminals using RID against drone operators, I'll re-evaluate my level of concern. Until then, it's not on my radar. Others have strong opinions to the contrary - their choice.

For new drone owners, I urge you to look at the actual history and avoid rumor and unsupported conjecture and make your own choices.

 

[mavic3usa]

Bad comparison.
Your car license plate doesn't also continuously transmit your home address from which you just drove your car, where your wife and children have now been left alone.

Besides, we have thousands and thousands of incidents where the license plate visibility is key to the crime whether it's identifying the bad guy or the good guys goes to great lengths to cover it up or conceal it from pry eyes. Literally thousands if not a million. Even with the limited information it provides and the very few people who have meaningful access to your details, almost *no one* is willing to just let someone else see their license plate and record it and attempt to "do something with it." Ironically quite a few people believe it is unlawful to record or take a picture of someone's license plate from public. Wow, so much denial....

 

[MS Coast]

almost *no one* is willing to just let someone else see their license plate and record it and attempt to "do something with it."

What? I know of no one who attempts to hide their license plate or interfere with other people seeing it. Everyone I know just drives around in public with the plate clearly visible to anyone. That's required by law, after all. And they even have a light to illuminate it so it can be seen at night.

What's your most effective technique for preventing others from seeing your plate?

 

[mavic3usa]

Perhaps the potential thieves know that stolen drones bound to a particular DJI account, is unusable and only good for parts.

Yeah, that's why the thousands of bound "stolen" drones on eBay are all marked as "parts only." /s

In fact, the opposite. The thief knows bound drones are no different than unbound drones when there are so many victims who cannot tell the difference. Thanks to DJI it's a constant trap. Instead of being able to sell to 25,000 buyers, the list narrows to 24,000 because the smart 1,000 know all about the "bound" drone trap. Thieves have zero care about bound drones, since when does a thief care if you get to fly the drone he stolen and sold to you?

Do you have a single story where someone's bound drone was stolen and they recovered it in the trash because the thief discarded it as junk? Yet I have proof; are you going to ask me for the receipts? I can point you to forums where stolen drones are bought and sold over and over and over (not for parts but as functional drones where there is a true victim).

 

[mavic3usa]

What's your most effective technique for preventing others from seeing your plate?

Stand in front of it.
Call the police.
Block the camera trying to record it.

 

[MS Coast]

Stand in front of it.
Call the police.
Block the camera trying to record it.

And that works while you're driving?

 

[mavic3usa]

What's your most effective technique for preventing others from seeing your plate?

Those techniques don't work while you are driving; there are other methods used while driving. Did I misunderstand your question? Did you mean to say

What's your most effective technique for preventing others from seeing your plate while you are driving the car?

You are deflecting.

That's like asking "How can someone get your RID when the drone is not powered up and stored away in your bag." Does your license plate disappear when you turn off the car, does it go hidden?

Anyway, stop asking silly questions and ask for the proof that I have that shows when someone else is specifically trying to capture your license plate when it's visible for everyone to see in public and the owner doesn't like it and wants to do something about it, they either

Stand in front of it.
Call the police.
Block the camera trying to record it.

and/or complain to the police that it is illegal and the person should delete the video or get arrested (they're wrong but they say this anyway).

Every situation is complex and is mostly unfounded because the license plate reveals very little to the ordinary public. Many drivers (wrongfully believe) when their car is parked on private property, capturing their plate is an invasion of privacy. My point is you tried to make it seem like everyone is ok with their tag being shown in public and it's not true, everyone is not always ok with it even though they go ahead with it. Some people back their car into parking spaces so their tag doesn't show (in 1 tag states). Some people remove their front tag to minimize the exposure (in 2 tag states). Some people move their tag to the window/windshield.....it may or may not be legal (that wasn't the discussion) and it's ok for people to feel this way just as it is ok for some flyers to feel it is not ok for their RID details to be broadcast widely but we do it legally because it's required.

Stop with the RID vs. license plate comparison, it's apples to oranges; geeez!

 

[anotherlab]

Never leave your RID spoofer at home so you can keep all of those Dronetag RIDER robbers on their toes!

That is the most useful post in this thread. Dilute the value of RID with bad data.

It's an interesting project but needs a more work before it would be useful. You could add the capability to provide GPS locations and the current time from a mobile app. The hardware required to make this work is not expensive. If you have a Flipper Zero and the Wi-Fi module, this project could be adapted to run on that.

Here's another project that mounts the spoofer to a drone. While you would never want to fly a drone with all that extra hardware attached, it shows how this all works.

Transmitting fake RID data packets would most probably be considered illegal. IANAL, but transmitting false radio signals can violate federal communications law and FCC rules (the Communications Act and implementing rules).