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Hi,

I am going to Germany and UK next month from Australia. Can I take my Mavic pro with me. Just to check if there is any issue with Customs and flying drone in these countries.
 
There won't be any problem with Customs, airline policies vary.
You will find some touristy places are likely to have restrictions on flying, but it's not always clear if bans are legally binding, and there's no shortage of less busy places to go - plus it will be pretty quiet so early in the year.
That's partly because weather can be quite wintery for a while yet.
 
not sure for tourists but people living here, for the Mavic Pro because of its weight you only need 2 things:
1. Insurance against damages (to third party property) covering your use of Drone ( I had to update mine to include small drone usage)
2. tag which is fireproof with your name and address carved on the tag (so no stickers or print outs) attached to the drone. (got a nano one which only weights 2g made of aluminium) I suppose this last one makes sense also for the owner in case you lose control or sight of your drone and lands elsewhere.
hope this helps.
 
Hi,

I am going to Germany and UK next month from Australia. Can I take my Mavic pro with me. Just to check if there is any issue with Customs and flying drone in these countries.
no problem with UK customs
batteries hand luggage only (check with your airline for No of batteries you can take)
.................................................................................................
Important Info Regardless of governing body or airline.
You MUST protect the battery from short circuit by placing electrical tape over the terminals, or by placing it in a protective case or strong plastic bag.

Civil Aviation Authority CAA UK Lithium Battery Regulations

Under 100Wh Lithium Battery Regulations
Allowed in Carry On Baggage in Equipment or as Spares
Allowed on your person
No Airline Approval Needed
Not allowed in Hold Luggage
 
Where abouts in the Uk are you visiting? Most national parks, forestry commission, nature reserves and National Trust land you cannot fly. Many towns have by-laws preventing flying on public land. A few don’t like the town I live in where you can fly in parks and beaches. Maximum permitted height is 400 feet. You must not fly writhin 50metres of any person or property you do not control (including upwards so flying over land at 51m is ok) and must be at least 150 metres away from crosses and built up areas. You can fly in Cat D airspace if your aircraft is under 7kg.

Drone code | Dronesafe
 
For Germany, checkout this map where to fly:

Map2Fly

In general: not allowed flying over private properties, national streets, national water ways, power lines,..
 
Where abouts in the Uk are you visiting? Most national parks, forestry commission, nature reserves and National Trust land you cannot fly. Many towns have by-laws preventing flying on public land. A few don’t like the town I live in where you can fly in parks and beaches. Maximum permitted height is 400 feet. You must not fly writhin 50metres of any person or property you do not control (including upwards so flying over land at 51m is ok) and must be at least 150 metres away from crosses and built up areas. You can fly in Cat D airspace if your aircraft is under 7kg.

Drone code | Dronesafe
I am visiting Birmingham. Won't be flying drone in Germany as that is for work only.
 
no problem with UK customs
batteries hand luggage only (check with your airline for No of batteries you can take)
.................................................................................................
Important Info Regardless of governing body or airline.
You MUST protect the battery from short circuit by placing electrical tape over the terminals, or by placing it in a protective case or strong plastic bag.

Civil Aviation Authority CAA UK Lithium Battery Regulations

Under 100Wh Lithium Battery Regulations
Allowed in Carry On Baggage in Equipment or as Spares
Allowed on your person
No Airline Approval Needed
Not allowed in Hold Luggage
I was thinking of carying three batteries in magic bag.

I will cover batteries with electrical tape.
Thanks
 
not sure for tourists but people living here, for the Mavic Pro because of its weight you only need 2 things:
1. Insurance against damages (to third party property) covering your use of Drone ( I had to update mine to include small drone usage)
2. tag which is fireproof with your name and address carved on the tag (so no stickers or print outs) attached to the drone. (got a nano one which only weights 2g made of aluminium) I suppose this last one makes sense also for the owner in case you lose control or sight of your drone and lands elsewhere.
hope this helps.

This makes it difficult as I am there for a week only. Can I get insurance for one week. And where did you hang tag on mavic pro. Can you send me photo.
Thanks
 
Germany:

No flying over people, cities, towns, waterways, highways, federal roads, power lines, protected areas (parks, bird sanctuaries, etc), power plants, military or police installations, and of course no flying near airports.

Sounds scary, but there are still many nice places left in Germany where it is perfectly fine to fly your drone.
 
Germany:

No flying over people, cities, towns, waterways, highways, federal roads, power lines, protected areas (parks, bird sanctuaries, etc), power plants, military or police installations, and of course no flying near airports.

Sounds scary, but there are still many nice places left in Germany where it is perfectly fine to fly your drone.
Is there any app which tells me with geo location. In Australia there is app for this from Australian Govt.
 
There won't be any problem with Customs, airline policies vary.
You will find some touristy places are likely to have restrictions on flying, but it's not always clear if bans are legally binding, and there's no shortage of less busy places to go - plus it will be pretty quiet so early in the year.
That's partly because weather can be quite wintery for a while yet.
Thanks
 
Where abouts in the Uk are you visiting? Most national parks, forestry commission, nature reserves and National Trust land you cannot fly. Many towns have by-laws preventing flying on public land. A few don’t like the town I live in where you can fly in parks and beaches. Maximum permitted height is 400 feet. You must not fly writhin 50metres of any person or property you do not control (including upwards so flying over land at 51m is ok) and must be at least 150 metres away from crosses and built up areas. You can fly in Cat D airspace if your aircraft is under 7kg.

Drone code | Dronesafe
I am going to Birmingham
 
Thanks Guys,
To sum it all up.
Carry batteries in hand bag. Isolate them with tape. Props in checked in baggage. Check maps2fly before flying. Check people, private properties, federal roads, powerlines etc before flying. I am sure still find places to fly.
Just not sure about third party insurance.
 
Hey,

In order to legally fly in Germany, don't forget to comply with the german "drone plakette".

Background Knowledge Drones & Law in Germany/Europe: The Drone-Driving Licence

For many years, amateur pilots regarded it as their personal right to fly their multi-copter without any rules. However, after accidents were seen and drones were flown by some pilots even in critical areas, such as no-fly zones around airports or over crowds of people, the legislator intervened: New stricter laws should now guarantee the safety of airspace in Germany and protect people from unmanned aerial objects.

But it soon became clear that the number of accidents associated with drones and quadrocopters could not be reduced in the long term with no-fly zones and weight restrictions alone. Many of these accidents are due to ignorance or recklessness on the part of the pilots. For this reason, many UAV pilots now have to undergo further training and instruction in the rapidly evolving UAV technology.

At the end there is a questionnaire in which the pilots have to prove their technical understanding and their legal knowledge. Only those who can prove their know-how receive the official licence to fly their multicopter in Germany.


Since autumn 2017 the German drone licence has been mandatory
Even in the Federal Ministry of Transportation, the drone driving licence was a hotly debated topic for a long time. Since autumn 2017, however, the regulation has been clear and unambiguous: anyone who wants to fly a quadrocopter must be able to prove that they are familiar with the flying object. If the person concerned is unable to do so, severe fines may be imposed.

Questions about the drone license that drone pilots keep asking themselves are:


  • Which exact knowledge must be proven?

  • Who's gonna issue the drone license?

  • What costs and effort are involved in obtaining the corresponding proof?

The proof of knowledge for operating drones is certified and issued by official agencies which are certified by the German Federal Office of Civil Aviation. Currently there are about 25 official agencies that can be contacted with regard to proof of knowledge for driving drones. However, as other bodies, such as official flight schools, are currently undergoing the certification process for issuing evidence of knowledge, the number of instances and contact points is likely to increase significantly in the future.


What do drones pilots have to prove for the proof of knowledge?
Applicants for a drone licence or official proof of knowledge for driving drones and quadrocopters are requested to answer selected examination questions. These are examination questions from the fields of aeronautical navigation, meteorology and of course air law.

What many drone pilots or those who would like to become one in the future often do not know, for example, is the fact that aviation liability insurance or at least adequate private liability is obligatory for every drone pilot. Anyone who does not have drones liability insurance is liable to prosecution and risks entering precarious financial situations in the event of damage.

Thanks to special providers for multi-copter liability policies, which offer aviation liability insurance for drones from a price of less than EUR 70 per year and private liability insurance with drone inclusion from currently EUR 32.76 per year, the conclusion of an adequate drone insurance today is not only easy and fast, but also very inexpensive.

For all those who do not yet have a drone licence and are afraid of too much effort, the all-clear can be given: Today, it is already possible to answer the examination questions orally or online. The time required to learn the theory can be spent in a few hours. If you are a member of an air sports club, you can have the introduction to the relevant topics confirmed by the association if necessary. However, the instruction is only valid for aircraft models.


As a drone pilot do I always need a drone licence?
Drones are available in almost all formats today. The smallest of them count as toys and do not fall under the new drone regulation. Proof of knowledge for flying the toy drones is of course not necessary. The new drone regulation has clearly stipulated that only pilots of quadrocopters must have a drone licence or proof of knowledge of which flying objects with a take-off weight of 2 kilograms or more want to fly.

But anyone who is familiar with the current drone models will certainly know: Almost all top-class models of the leading drone manufacturers exceed this weight limit by far: Both the DJI Inspire 1 & 2 and Phantom 3 & 4 are significantly heavier than 2 kg in all variants.

The official proof of knowledge for driving drones can be acquired from the age of 16 years. The certificate for flying model aircraft can even be issued to 14-year-old pilots.


Hope it helps,
GermanPilot
 
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