H.265 vs ProRes 422HQ. Sample footage?

[Ben_McPhee]

Just wondering if any sample footage exists from the 2 versions of the Mavic 3 for comparison and general evaluation purposes?

Basically, I’d like to side by side them in a few different shooting conditions to see how they compare.

Most interested in:
- High speed flight (does compression cause artifices with big changes between frames).
- High iso (low light) conditions.
- Poorly exposed images (over/under) and recovery.
- Large creative grade (big colour shifts)
- d-log vs hasselblad color profiles.
- any others of interest.

If this doesn’t exist yet, maybe someone could make it? Here in Australia… that’s a question that makes over $3000 difference…

Also… even if I would personally be fine with h.265 footage, can anyone suggest some reasons I might want ProRes anyway? Eg: clients will prefer it, I can charge more, it will save me from many exposure errors etc.

 

[manowar_gub]

I also want to clarify
Is h265 10 bit dlog_m has 4:2:2 or it simple 4:2:0 as m2p / a2s

 

[Jfvdenning]

Just wondering if any sample footage exists from the 2 versions of the Mavic 3 for comparison and general evaluation purposes?

Basically, I’d like to side by side them in a few different shooting conditions to see how they compare.

Most interested in:
- High speed flight (does compression cause artifices with big changes between frames).
- High iso (low light) conditions.
- Poorly exposed images (over/under) and recovery.
- Large creative grade (big colour shifts)
- d-log vs hasselblad color profiles.
- any others of interest.

If this doesn’t exist yet, maybe someone could make it? Here in Australia… that’s a question that makes over $3000 difference…

Also… even if I would personally be fine with h.265 footage, can anyone suggest some reasons I might want ProRes anyway? Eg: clients will prefer it, I can charge more, it will save me from many exposure errors etc.

If you need prores you would know. You won’t tell the difference unless you do heavy grading.

 

[SmilingOgre]

Just wondering if any sample footage exists from the 2 versions of the Mavic 3 for comparison and general evaluation purposes?

Basically, I’d like to side by side them in a few different shooting conditions to see how they compare.

Most interested in:
- High speed flight (does compression cause artifices with big changes between frames).
- High iso (low light) conditions.
- Poorly exposed images (over/under) and recovery.
- Large creative grade (big colour shifts)
- d-log vs hasselblad color profiles.
- any others of interest.

If this doesn’t exist yet, maybe someone could make it? Here in Australia… that’s a question that makes over $3000 difference…

Also… even if I would personally be fine with h.265 footage, can anyone suggest some reasons I might want ProRes anyway? Eg: clients will prefer it, I can charge more, it will save me from many exposure errors etc.

I'm interested too. Hopefully some reviewer will show sample footage of both at some point. The only comparison I can make is tangential. I have a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k that has a 4/3 sensor and shoots both raw and prores. I prefer raw. It is not a monster low light camera. Both my Nikon D850 and Z6 do better. Color graded images between the BMPCC and my Mavic 2 pro are worlds apart. The BMPCC has far more latitude even shooting dlog h265 on the Mavic. Personally, I have interest in the base Mavic 3 pro. They are tacking $300.00 on the the fly more for the bag so that's out for me. The cine Mavic is out too. I don't find prores that beneficial for me and I don't shoot commercially, so there is no demand for it. Sorry, only opinions. Maybe we'll learn more as time goes by.

 

[christangey]

Just wondering if any sample footage exists from the 2 versions of the Mavic 3 for comparison and general evaluation purposes?

Basically, I’d like to side by side them in a few different shooting conditions to see how they compare.

Most interested in:
- High speed flight (does compression cause artifices with big changes between frames).
- High iso (low light) conditions.
- Poorly exposed images (over/under) and recovery.
- Large creative grade (big colour shifts)
- d-log vs hasselblad color profiles.
- any others of interest.

If this doesn’t exist yet, maybe someone could make it? Here in Australia… that’s a question that makes over $3000 difference…

Also… even if I would personally be fine with h.265 footage, can anyone suggest some reasons I might want ProRes anyway? Eg: clients will prefer it, I can charge more, it will save me from many exposure errors etc.

These are the big questions we all want answered, I think eventually they will have to reduce the price of the cine package to sell it, but it may already be too late.

 

[Pappy]

Billy Kyle posted several samples from the M3 Cine model to his DropBox account. DLog folder has ProRes 4:2:2.

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

And DroneXL posted some samples as well - Download DJI Mavic 3 sample photos and video footage here

 

[christangey]

Billy Kyle posted several samples from the M3 Cine model to his DropBox account. DLog folder has ProRes 4:2:2.

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

And DroneXL posted some samples as well - Download DJI Mavic 3 sample photos and video footage here

The trouble is Billy's are in 1080 HD and Drone XL's are only in UHD, not even 4K, let alone 5.1K. Without files in 5.1K in the different formats they are basically useless to many pros.

 

[SmilingOgre]

Billy Kyle posted several samples from the M3 Cine model to his DropBox account. DLog folder has ProRes 4:2:2.

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

And DroneXL posted some samples as well - Download DJI Mavic 3 sample photos and video footage here

Interesting file. Color corrects a lot like raw.

 

[christangey]

Interesting file. Color corrects a lot like raw.

which file?

 

[SmilingOgre]

which file?

Dropbox/D-log/ either one in the folder I chose dji_0023,mov

 

[christangey]

Dropbox/D-log/ either one in the folder

They're 1080, so they are a waste of space to me. Does the M3 now only have d-log, not HLG?

 

[SmilingOgre]

They're 1080, so they are a waste of space to me. Does the M3 now only have d-log, not HLG?

Davinci Reslove came up with 5K

 

[christangey]

Davinci Reslove came up with 5K

Hmmm, don't know much about dropbox, maybe I'm just looking at a preview

 

[SmilingOgre]

Hmmm, don't know much about dropbox, maybe I'm just looking at a preview

When I opened it up for a preview it gave me the option to download, so I did and looked it over in Resolve.

 

[SmilingOgre]

Hmmm, don't know much about dropbox, maybe I'm just looking at a preview

Here's how it looks with some quick color correction:

 

[christangey]

Here's how it looks with some quick color correction:

Still looks a bit "hot" and a soft image

 

[SmilingOgre]

Still looks a bit "hot" and a soft image

It's not gonna rival a Red or an Ursa Mini. You might be able to alter the "hot" aspect with further color grading if you wanted to.

 

[christangey]

It's not gonna rival a Red or an Ursa Mini. You might be able to alter the "hot" aspect with further color grading if you wanted to.

I think it's just the light where that guy's from and time of day, I would rarely shoot at that time. Funny thing in one of his videos he goes on about only needing 8ND on cloudy days and 16ND on sunny ones. Most of the time here in the Australian desert I am shooting with a 32 and if I really needed to do middle of the day, a 64.

 

[Pappy]

The trouble is Billy's are in 1080 HD and Drone XL's are only in UHD, not even 4K, let alone 5.1K. Without files in 5.1K in the different formats they are basically useless to many pros.

You must be looking at the wrong files then. Here's the
codec data from DJI_0023.MOV in the DLog folder. It is showing Apple ProRes 422 HQ with a video resolution of 5120x2700 (5.1K).



DroneXL is using Apple ProRes 422 HQ with a a video resolution of 3840x2160 which is 4K (UHD).

 

[Pappy]

I think it's just the light where that guy's from and time of day, I would rarely shoot at that time. Funny thing in one of his videos he goes on about only needing 8ND on cloudy days and 16ND on sunny ones. Most of the time here in the Australian desert I am shooting with a 32 and if I really needed to do middle of the day, a 64.

I would also add the ground coverage has a big factor on the ND used as well. An arid landscape with with white, brownish, orange, or reddish exposed soil will reflect much more light than say a dark green forested landscape.