New top speed of 171 km/h (DJI FPV Racer)

[DarR-T]

But with ideas like "knots per hour" and "one minute of distance is a measure of speed" you're in the same league with the high ranking politician who wants to annex your country as our 51st state.

One knot equals one nautical mile per hour. Period. End of statement.
Anything else to the contrary is bla,bla, bla.

 

[Droning on and on...]

With all due respect, you're arguing semantics.
While true that a nautical mile measures distance and the knot measures speed, "one minute of distance" is a measure of speed.
One knot equals one nautical mile per hour.

"One minute of distance" is where you made your mistake. In that context, "minute" is an arc measurement, an angle, not a measure of time. So the statement is not Nautical Mile (distance) / minute (time), rather Nautical mile (distance) / minute (arc measurement), which isnt used for anything, and is basically nonsense.

Similar to "wind" and "wind"

 

[DarR-T]

"One minute of distance" is where you made your mistake. In that context, "minute" is an arc measurement, an angle, not a measure of time. So the statement is not Nautical Mile (distance) / minute (time), rather Nautical mile (distance) / minute (arc measurement), which isnt used for anything, and is basically nonsense.

Similar to "wind" and "wind"

I agree with that and not to be taken out of context.
I wrote in #51 that: A 1/60th of a degree of latitude is known as a "minute of latitude".

 

[Ex Coelis]

Yes there is!
RPA's are considered an aircraft in Canada.
Subsection 101.01(1) of the Canadian Aviation Regulations:
Remotely piloted aircraft means a navigable aircraft, other than a balloon, rocket or kite, that is operated by a pilot who is not onboard.

Airspeed Limitations
602.32 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person shall
(a) operate an aircraft at an indicated airspeed of more than 250 knots (463 kph / 288 mph) if the aircraft is below 10,000 feet ASL;
or
(b) operate an aircraft at an indicated airspeed of more than 200 knots (370 kph / 230 mph) if the aircraft is below 3,000 feet AGL within 10 nautical miles of a controlled aerodrome unless authorized to do so in an air traffic control clearance.

And just so you know:
602.33 No person shall operate an aircraft at a true Mach number of 1 or greater.

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “
– Mark Twain

You’re absolutely correct on one point, RPA are aircraft!!

But… you missed a pesky little section in CAR Part 6, Subpart 2, Section 602.01

Please tell me you can’t possibly believe those speeds and altitudes relate to RPA?


You really shouldn’t cherry pick data without reading the whole piece of legislation?!

Apology accepted.

 

[Ex Coelis]

That’s your very best kindergarten response?

 

[Ex Coelis]

So there is a statutory speed limit subject to punishment if violated?

Read post 64

 

[Ex Coelis]

Oh my... we can't even rely on the advice of Advanced Pilots any more... Oh the humanity!

Read post #64 and #68

 

[DarR-T]

But… you missed a pesky little section in CAR Part 6, Subpart 2, Section 602.01

Please tell me you can’t possible believe those speeds and altitudes relate to RPA?

You're absolutely correct. I did miss that and stand corrected.
There are no speed limits for RPA's in Canada until further notice.
And, no I did not believe RPA's (ours anyways) could fly that fast.

 

[Ex Coelis]

Our section 900 in CAR pertaining to RPA's would be the equivalent to GAPS.
Everything in there can be considered "Generally Accepted Practices".

About your Knot definition: Totally correct.

• May I add that:
• A knot is exactly equal to 1/60th of a degree of latitude.
• A 1/60th of a degree of latitude is known as a "minute of latitude".
• Therefore a knot is equal to one minute of distance.
• There are 90 degrees from the equator to the pole.
• Therefore a knot is 1/5,400th the distance from the equator to the pole. This number is found by multiplying 90 (degrees from equator to pole) * 60 (number of minutes in a degree of latitude).

Generally accepted practice?!
The CAR is black and white legislation; codified law!
Nothing “generally accepted” about it!

 

[DarR-T]

Generally accepted practice?!
The CAR is black and white legislation; codified law!
Nothing “generally accepted” about it!

True that. It is legislation. What I meant was that CAR 900 makes common sense.

 

[Ex Coelis]

Not at all. While the attempt at being humorous about it seems to confuse you I will apologize to the OP if it was taken as such.
Flying a Drone at 100 mph is like shooting a weapon with a huge projectile! In the FPV world this "milestone" is accomplished by many yet reported publicly by few.
LOOK, The best research I can do from here is fire up the Computers and start asking, googling, and querying.......From what I am seeing now and from what I have read from Canadian FPVers in the past,,,100 MPH is not allowed in Canada. I think the major reason for the rule is that flying a Drone at those speeds will KILL someone if they are hit and it will most certainty penetrate any vehicle or object it came in contact with.
If you can find wording that definitively tells me its OK to fly at 100 That would be great! and I know where my Drones and I will be vacationing this year. If Canadians will still have us Americans lol............
Thats it from Me and apologies for any hurt feelings the OP may have experienced.
PERHAPS a member involved with the FAA could chime in.. and clarify this for all of us. I am sure they know the answer many FAA people are pretty versed in Canadian aviation regs.

1. Sorry, but I think your humour could use some polish?
2. At no point have I suggested 100 mph or 100 knots is prudent or safe; simply that there is no speed limit (yet). Should there be one? I expect there will be; 100 km/h (62 mph) perhaps. I hope it doesn’t take a serious mishap to get there.
3. No disrespect to your internet search abilities, but the legislation is the final arbitor of the issue in my view.
4. I cannot prove a negative for you. There simply is no mention of RPA speed or speed limit in our legislation.
5. Come up north and enjoy. You will be welcome, regardless of what our leaders argue about.

 

[rdb04]

I was and I know there are loads of home builds that can easily do this. The guy said he did it with a DJI drone. I did not think DJI made a drone that would get up to such speed in a short distance and be able to stop again.

Who said anything about successfully stopping lol. Jk jk. It was in a controlled environment, and it was luck that I didn’t put her down

 

[rdb04]

The DJI fpv might get kinda close in manual but you would have to slam the throttle and I think the battery would burst into flames before you got it to 100. lol

I got this data from AirData UAV after I logged the flight. On the DJI fly app it said 47.5 m/s in the report. Surprised me as well. Throttle may have been slammed lol

 

[Cafguy]

1. Sorry, but I think your humour could use some polish?

1, I have a buddy who seems to do well with comedy.......I will ask him for a few tips.

3. No disrespect to your internet search abilities, but the legislation is the final arbitor of the issue in my view.

No disrespect taken............. This is a debate about something and noone should take things personally or become angry lol this is only a drone forum if being called or even proved wrong upsets me that much then the V.A. counselor isnt doing his job, lol.
I will say that I have no experience with Canadian aviation laws BUT I did an extensive search and while it is true I did not find a Maximum speed in Canada I did get plenty of results that pretty much prove my point. If you simply look for countries that allow 100 you will see the number equals ZERO.

4. I cannot prove a negative for you. There simply is no mention of RPA speed or speed limit in our legislation.

I cannot either all that I can do is simply copy and paste the results of my search......It could very well be that I am wrong. But I would like to see it for myself. I have a few Canadian FPV friends who would be very happy to hear that they can "test" their Drones outdoors.

5. Come up north and enjoy. You will be welcome, regardless of what our leaders argue about.

I would LOVE TOO!!! and lets just call them "elected officials" ....calling them leaders is like giving them credit for something they can't do. lol

 

[Cafguy]

I got this data from AirData UAV after I logged the flight. On the DJI fly app it said 47.5 m/s in the report. Surprised me as well. Throttle may have been slammed lol

I have seen a DJI FPV burst into Flames from over throttling in manual. ChecK that Battery Temp Often!! and dont slam on it too long.

 

[MS Coast]

One knot equals one nautical mile per hour. Period. End of statement.
Anything else to the contrary is bla,bla, bla.

I'm delighted that you now agree with what I said in post #46.

 

[DarR-T]

I'm delighted that you now agree with what I said in post #46.

I never disagreed with you on that. In fact I have mentioned this in many previous post.
I mentioned it again to simplify a bloated discussion which is BTW, off topic.
Moreover, I'm humble enough to admit when I'm wrong and I don't resort to tactics like jumping the shark.

 

[Droning on and on...]

That’s your very best kindergarten response?

No I've got much better ones. In fact, we could really reach into the bag o' tricks and pull out some preschool material, if you make it necessary

 

[MS Coast]

I never disagreed with you on that.

Au contraire.

• "May I add that:
• A knot is exactly equal to 1/60th of a degree of latitude.
• A 1/60th of a degree of latitude is known as a "minute of latitude".
• Therefore a knot is equal to one minute of distance.
• There are 90 degrees from the equator to the pole.
• Therefore a knot is 1/5,400th the distance from the equator to the pole. This number is found by multiplying 90 (degrees from equator to pole) * 60 (number of minutes in a degree of latitude)."

I don't resort to tactics like jumping the shark.

Surely there's a Mako or Blacktip lurking somewhere beneath that twisted list.

 

[DarR-T]

Au contraire.

• "May I add that:
• A knot is exactly equal to 1/60th of a degree of latitude.
• A 1/60th of a degree of latitude is known as a "minute of latitude".
• Therefore a knot is equal to one minute of distance.
• There are 90 degrees from the equator to the pole.
• Therefore a knot is 1/5,400th the distance from the equator to the pole. This number is found by multiplying 90 (degrees from equator to pole) * 60 (number of minutes in a degree of latitude)."

Surely there's a Mako or Blacktip lurking somewhere beneath that twisted list.

I've had enough. "Ignored"