New update for dji

[ItsLunchBOX]

As far as I can understand the app is not for us it's for the general non flying public to open the app when they see one of us flying, but what I fail to understand is how if they are interested will they know about the app and are they going to bother downloading it because most people say over 55-60 will probably not have a smart phone. It's a very good idea if !!!!!!!!

Do you really believe most people over 55-60 don’t have smart phones? Pew research shows that in the United States, almost 80% of people between 55 and 64 own smart phones. In fact, 53% of people 65+ own a smart phone. I would imagine most other countries the numbers are similar.

Mobile Fact Sheet

Americans today are increasingly connected to the world of digital information while “on the go” via smartphones. Explore the latest patterns, trends and statistics that have shaped the mobile revolution.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Wonderjeep]

Please help me understand...

To the best of my reasoning there are only two reasons why this would be a problem.
1) I am flying somewhere illegal and I don’t want to get caught.
2) I am accosted by someone who is ignorant of my legal rights and attempts to find me and chase me away from a legal fly spot.

Is there something else I am missing? If I am flying legally and no one bothers me then I don’t see why I would care if anyone knows I am flying there so long as I am not harassed.

 

[scoble08]

i wont be updating mine either

From what I gather, DJI says this app was a proof of concept for the FAA and other agencies of how their solution could work with little expense of privacy (no USS)and cost to us drone flyers. They have no plans of releasing this app to the public in its current form.

 

[kloogee]

I am still extremely surprised at how much lack of knowledge there is in the drone flying community about the FAA’s Remote ID proposal! Everybody is getting upset at DJI about this, but very few that are upset with DJI actually understand that this Drone to Phone demonstration is just a demonstration of a SCALED BACK version of what the FAA has proposed as a new law that ALL drone manufacturers (yes including Autel) will BE REQUIRED BY LAW to implement if the Remote ID proposal is passed as currently proposed.

Educate yourself and direct your ire towards the FAA by providing an educated response to their proposal

Remote Identification of Unmanned Aircraft Systems

This action would require the remote identification of unmanned aircraft systems. The remote identification of unmanned aircraft systems in the airspace of the United States would address safety, national security, and law enforcement concerns regarding the further integration of these aircraft...

www.federalregister.gov

 

[kloogee]

If you want to know DJI’s stance on Remote ID and pilot privacy, I would suggest you read the following links:

We Strongly Support Drone Remote ID. But Not Like This.

DJI wants governments to require Remote ID for drones, but the FAA has proposed a complex, expensive, and intrusive system that would make it harder to use drones in America, and that jeopardizes the success of the Remote ID initiative. Instead, we support a simpler, easier, and free version of...

content.dji.com

Be Heard: DJI’s Tips for Commenting on the FAA’s Proposed Remote ID Rule

The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has proposed far-reaching new Remote Identification rules that will affect how drones are designed, produced and used. This proposal would require almost all drones in America to connect to a computer network service in order to fly legally, which...

content.dji.com

Who Should Know Where A Drone Pilot Is Located?

As American drone operators try to understand how the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) drone Remote Identification proposal would affect them, one of the most concerning issues is proving to be the requirement that every drone transmit the location of its pilot in near-real time.

content.dji.com

 

[Muddiver]

I agree with @kloogee. Educate yourself about the topics that are affecting us from the sources, FAA NPRM (FAA-2019-1100), DJI, etc. That way you can make educated decisions and comments about what is happening. You wouldn't get into a gunfight with no ammo. Knowledge is our ammo in this "gunfight" with the FAA. Don't listen to "he said, she said" and jump to conclusions based on limited or incorrect information. Find out for yourself. We will not help ourselves if we don't educate ourselves!

 

[ssvdh66]

This will be a DJI killer. Hello AUTLE !!!

hahahahahaha,this is at the request of FAA (USA),so you think an American drone company will be exempt from American laws ?

 

[ssvdh66]

Please help me understand...

To the best of my reasoning there are only two reasons why this would be a problem.
1) I am flying somewhere illegal and I don’t want to get caught.
2) I am accosted by someone who is ignorant of my legal rights and attempts to find me and chase me away from a legal fly spot.

Is there something else I am missing? If I am flying legally and no one bothers me then I don’t see why I would care if anyone knows I am flying there so long as I am not harassed.

Thank You for the voice of reason !

 

[kloogee]

hahahahahaha,this is at the request of FAA (USA),so you think an American drone company will be exempt from American laws ?

Autel is every bit as much a Chinese company as DJI.

 

[tesohn]

I have to agree this is a Terrible News.

Rather than throw in the towel and add to the negative comments , im gong to try to find a way to use it to my advantage and I think it beats showing someone your 107 permit. If i can gain some leverage using the app im going to use it to enhance my position if possible. None of this is on DJI its all coming from the FAA and how vulnerable China is now. .

This is not that China is vulnerable now, this has been in the works for a least the last year.

 

[HoozierDroneDaddy]

As mentioned above DJI put this out to demonstrate that RID can be accomplished with current methods. The FAA is not the one pushing RID, it is from higher up at DHS. The proposed RID is to make everyone be connected through a network, i.e. phone network, which would be broadcast to everyone, i.e. general public, and would let everyone know who you are, where you are flying (including your controller location), what you are flying, etc. So Joe blow that may be a drone hater can come to your location, harass you, and potentially create a safety hazard, or worse. Read the full NPRM and educate yourself, then make constructive comments BEFORE the deadline in two days. It could make the difference of you being able to stay in business for 107 pilots, or even be able to fly if your a hobbiest.

 

[Terry63]

Please help me understand...

To the best of my reasoning there are only two reasons why this would be a problem.
1) I am flying somewhere illegal and I don’t want to get caught.
2) I am accosted by someone who is ignorant of my legal rights and attempts to find me and chase me away from a legal fly spot.

Is there something else I am missing? If I am flying legally and no one bothers me then I don’t see why I would care if anyone knows I am flying there so long as I am not harassed.

Number 2 could be an issue and he might just do more than chase you.

In post # 45 by kloogee, the 3rd link "Who should know where a drone pilot is located" is very informative and from the source (DJI) who created this software and gives the reason why they did it.

 

[openation]

YES I AM WITH YOU !!!!!

 

[openation]

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK TWICE ON BUYING DRONES FROM DJI WAIT AND SEE..........

 

[JL_Ware]

How does this work if you're using a CrystalSky monitor, or an iPad, also if you used your phone and put it into Airplane Mode, would anyone be able to ID your Drone?

 

[RonW]

All this hype and hysteria over this proposed update. Has no one thought of using Litchi instead of DJI app? Also, if using an ipad without cell network, there'll be no tramsmitting of any info.
Just my thoughts on subject.

 

[Deleted member 94047]

I haven't had an update in a long time, but it's there for me. Check your settings.

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I never paid attention to this but it is also there in my GO4 app as well (flying Mavic Air). So i googled it a bit. Apparently, it was introduced by DJI in 2017. Here is a news article from DJI explaining what it does

DJI Introduces Voluntary Flight Identification Options For Drone Pilots - DJI

DJI Introduces Voluntary Flight Identification Options For Drone Pilots

www.dji.com

In short, this is not the same as the new "Drone-to-Phone" Remote Identification scheme.

 

[Muddiver]

None of the Remote ID info comes from whatever app you're using to fly your drone. It comes from the drone downlink itself. Even if you loose comms with the drone, it's still broadcasting it's make, model, serial number, position, altitude, direction and speed. This info you can't change.

 

[D-Rosin]

Litchi

whats Litchi?

 

[otisbrazwell]

Please help me understand...

To the best of my reasoning there are only two reasons why this would be a problem.
1) I am flying somewhere illegal and I don’t want to get caught.
2) I am accosted by someone who is ignorant of my legal rights and attempts to find me and chase me away from a legal fly spot.

Is there something else I am missing? If I am flying legally and no one bothers me then I don’t see why I would care if anyone knows I am flying there so long as I am not harassed.

so your saying you never fly out of sight . make sure you dont because you will pay hefty