Remote ID and the Mini 3 Pro

f13dfx · Aug 26, 2023

I’m in Canada and was wondering what Mini 3 Pro firmware version number implemented Remote ID?

mavic3usa · Aug 26, 2023

Page 3: https://dl.djicdn.com/downloads/DJI_Mini_3_Pro/RN/20230328/DJI_Mini_3_Pro_Release_Notes_EN.pdf

kevguy · Aug 27, 2023

droncek said:
Remote ID on mini 3 is turned OFF in europe. It was ON with early firmwares I know because I could track mine with a phone but then dji disconnected this in europe and I can't track it anymore. In USA is probably permamently ON.

I’m in Canada. How do I find out if mine is on or off?

JDubyaM · Aug 28, 2023

kevguy said:
I’m in Canada. How do I find out if mine is on or off?

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It's June 17th and I just downloaded Dronetag's DRONE SCANNER app. My Mavic 3 Classic is RID compliant, but it doesn't show up on the app. Drone Scanner says it has scanned for Blue Tooth AND Wi-Fi- and says that there are "0" ZERO drones around. I see the the GPS map on the app is...

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rjwmorrell · Aug 28, 2023

The DJI Forum is full of DJI official responses to users asking similar questions, and their answer seems to be:

Remote ID is active when:

1. The aircraft is capable of it
2. The aircraft is operated within a jurisdiction that requires it
3. The motor is on

So, I suppose it's not operating here in Canada? I've yet to see my Air 2S on Drone Scanner here.

kevguy · Aug 28, 2023

rjwmorrell said:
The DJI Forum is full of DJI official responses to users asking similar questions, and their answer seems to be:

Remote ID is active when:

1. The aircraft is capable of it
2. The aircraft is operated within a jurisdiction that requires it
3. The motor is on

So, I suppose it's not operating here in Canada? I've yet to see my Air 2S on Drone Scanner here.

Is this RID just a thing in the United States?

rjwmorrell · Aug 28, 2023

I've heard Japan has something similar (or the same? not sure).

kevguy · Aug 28, 2023

rjwmorrell said:
I've heard Japan has something similar (or the same? not sure).

So, I’m in Canada, so I’m not going to care about it.

mavic3usa · Aug 28, 2023

You can care about RID today or you can care about it tomorrow; because all civilized country will get it eventually; just a matter of time. IMO

We didn't care about it here in the US and look what it got us....

kevguy · Aug 28, 2023

mavic3usa said:
You can care about RID today or you can care about it tomorrow; because all civilized country will get it eventually; just a matter of time. IMO

We didn't care about it here in the US and look what it got us....

I don’t care about it still.

rjwmorrell · Aug 28, 2023

mavic3usa said:
You can care about RID today or you can care about it tomorrow; because all civilized country will get it eventually; just a matter of time. IMO

We didn't care about it here in the US and look what it got us....

I agree, especially the way things are going. We already have a government that loves to regulate things (mind you, don't all of them?), and a number of incidents documented to support authorities being able to track drone usage.

kevguy · Aug 28, 2023

rjwmorrell said:
I agree, especially the way things are going. We already have a government that loves to regulate things (mind you, don't all of them?), and a number of incidents documented to support authorities being able to track drone usage.

…still don’t care…

kevguy · Aug 28, 2023

mavic3usa said:
You can care about RID today or you can care about it tomorrow; because all civilized country will get it eventually; just a matter of time. IMO

We didn't care about it here in the US and look what it got us....

Here is how I see it.

This RID coming into effect next month, it’s a U.S. thing. Because it’s a U.S. thing, you Yankees think it implies to everyone else cause the whole world revolves around you guys. Well, I got news for you. Your problems and issues are yours alone. Not Canada, not the EU, not Australia, not Japan, not China, etc…..the list goes on. Do you think the FAA tells TCCA what to do?

Bottom line, right now it’s a U.S. issue, I’m in Canada, therefore I ain’t gonna care. You like to think it affects me too or it will eventually, but as for now I don’t care because it’s not an issue here.

mavic3usa · Aug 28, 2023

kevguy said:
Here is how I see it.

This RID coming into effect next month, it’s a U.S. thing. Because it’s a U.S. thing, you Yankees think it implies to everyone else cause the whole world revolves around you guys. Well, I got news for you. Your problems and issues are yours alone. Not Canada, not the EU, not Australia, not Japan, not China, etc…..the list goes on. Do you think the FAA tells TCCA what to do?

Bottom line, right now it’s a U.S. issue, I’m in Canada, therefore I ain’t gonna care. You like to think it affects me too or it will eventually, but as for now I don’t care because it’s not an issue here.

No worries.

monchan · Sep 7, 2023

kevguy said:
Here is how I see it.

This RID coming into effect next month, it’s a U.S. thing. Because it’s a U.S. thing, you Yankees think it implies to everyone else cause the whole world revolves around you guys. Well, I got news for you. Your problems and issues are yours alone. Not Canada, not the EU, not Australia, not Japan, not China, etc…..the list goes on. Do you think the FAA tells TCCA what to do?

Bottom line, right now it’s a U.S. issue, I’m in Canada, therefore I ain’t gonna care. You like to think it affects me too or it will eventually, but as for now I don’t care because it’s not an issue here.

Actually RID has been in effect since mid 2022. You can`t legally fly without it. Laws here are pretty strict.
Cant fly at night. Can`t fly over densely popluated areas, so no city flights, night time city flights.
Any drone over 100g must be registered.
So if you are a tourist coming here, you need to register online, pay the regitration fee.
Then you will need to head out to the country side, and get shots you probably didn`t want to get.

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Art Cox · Mar 31, 2024

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The mini 3 pro made the list so I assume it's broadcasting.

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Not according to the "Karen App". Drone Scanner. I just flew my M3P and it didn't show up. My Air 2S did, but the Mini 3 Pro did not. Also my Phantom 4 Advanced with the Holy Stone RID module showed up.
So I don't think the Mini 3 Pro RID works,

mavic3usa · Mar 31, 2024

Art Cox said:
Not according to the "Karen App". Drone Scanner. I just flew my M3P and it didn't show up. My Air 2S did, but the Mini 3 Pro did not. Also my Phantom 4 Advanced with the Holy Stone RID module showed up.
So I don't think the Mini 3 Pro RID works,

The FAA DoC only lists drones that have been submitted to them by the manufacturer seeking compliance. If the FAA approves, the drone model gets issued a DoC. Obtaining a DoC doesn't necessarily mean your drone is broadcasting although one would think if the FAA approves mean "you are free to continue to build and sell drones in America if you follow the DoC we just gave you."

Unfortunately the Mini 3 Pro falls into a grey area that might be open to interpretation where you are flying recreationally under 250g and therefore you don't need to broadcast RID. DJI has likely implemented a [battery] strategy that takes advantage of this "loophole."

Also just because one of the scanner apps is not picking up your broadcast doesn't necessarily mean the drone is not broadcasting. The scanner apps when combined with particular phone models are notoriously inaccurate and ineffective which detracts from them being taken seriously by the karen crowd so we may have to stop referring to them as karen apps since nobody knows (or trusts) how or if they work correctly, so nobody really uses them for what they were intended for.

Vic Moss · Mar 31, 2024

Art Cox said:
Not according to the "Karen App". Drone Scanner. I just flew my M3P and it didn't show up. My Air 2S did, but the Mini 3 Pro did not. Also my Phantom 4 Advanced with the Holy Stone RID module showed up.
So I don't think the Mini 3 Pro RID works,

One of the issues with the RID apps is their unreliability. Remember, when it comes to Standard RID, it is NOT the responsibility of the owner to make sure it's working, just that you're updated with the right firmware to have it enabled.

For Standard RID, if the drones launches, that means it went through it's check process and passed. That means it's working. It doesn't matter if it is seen on RID Apps. And if it's on an iOS app, DJI won't show up anyway. iSO doesn't allow wifi scanning, so it can't see wifi RID. It can only see BlueTooth, which basically means modules.

Vic Moss · Mar 31, 2024

mavic3usa said:
The FAA DoC only lists drones that have been submitted to them by the manufacturer seeking compliance. If the FAA approves, the drone model gets issued a DoC. Obtaining a DoC doesn't necessarily mean your drone is broadcasting although one would think if the FAA approves mean "you are free to continue to build and sell drones in America if you follow the DoC we just gave you."

Unfortunately the Mini 3 Pro falls into a grey area that might be open to interpretation where you are flying recreationally under 250g and therefore you don't need to broadcast RID. DJI has likely implemented a [battery] strategy that takes advantage of this "loophole."

Also just because one of the scanner apps is not picking up your broadcast doesn't necessarily mean the drone is not broadcasting. The scanner apps when combined with particular phone models are notoriously inaccurate and ineffective which detracts from them being taken seriously by the karen crowd so we may have to stop referring to them as karen apps since nobody knows (or trusts) how or if they work correctly, so nobody really uses them for what they were intended for.