We Ask Again: Where Were the Drones?

[timskins]

Wow. Political much I was about to report you…

Who moderates the moderator?

 

[HoozierDroneDaddy]

There are other considerations to think about when using a drone for this type of work. Type of drone, battery flying time, environment, weather, airspace (local air traffic), allowable AGL limits, signal interference, obstacles, operations over people, all of which we already know. All of which can effect the effectiveness of the mission.

In a wide open area, with clearance, a good camera (possibly with zoom), you could effectively fly around the crowd, or stay over surrounding buildings, without needing to operate over people. This would still allow monitoring high points, roof tops, and other suspicious areas.

In city environments you now have tall buildings limiting effective viewing of required areas and increasing a need for operations over people, communication/power lines between buildings, signal interference, VLOS, etc. This would limit viewable areas and increase the chance of missing a suspicious person or activity.

This is not surveillance in the normal sense as watching a specific person or place for an extended time. It is a SEARCH similar to looking for an escaping subject or prisoner, to prevent a crime and/or prevent loss of life. So surveillance laws would should not be in play.

In either case, use of drones for these activities can be an easy operation or a complicated one based on location and local city, county, state laws. IMHO, when an event such as these occurs the Local Law Enforcement if equipped with UAV's or depending on the speaker, a Federal agency, could and should where possible make an aerial sweep prior to, and during the event as a standard security procedure. Today many Law Enforcement agencies already have drone fleets. Of course, there will be lots of feedback. Who funds it, who is in charge, what equipment can be used, who doesn't want their toes stepped on, etc. The new BLOV rules will obviously effect these operations unless it can be modified.

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[Ralph thompson]

I think that we're starting to get off point here. Whether or not you agreed with what Charlie Kirk had to say, and I personally didn't, but he had the right to say it.

As we head towards the midterms there's going to to be more and more politicians from both sides holding open air rallies and there will always be disturbed people from both sides who want to silence them.

As an experienced shooter myself I can tell you that for the perpetrator to have made that shot, he had to have been in position for at least 5 minutes before he pulled the trigger so the fact remains that this could have been prevented had the organizers hired a couple of drone pilots to patrol the rooftops and reported any suspicious activity to security or law enforcement.

Stuart Smith.
The Droning Company

You make good points. As a journalist, I’ve often seen people walking on roofs while operating a drone, somehow they stand out in an otherwise static space. A figure moving around a grey roof is quite visible. Hiring a couple of well trained drone pilots to survey the area before hand and during the event could give security a warning to pause the event, keep the speaker away from or off the stage. I personally didn’t agree with Kirks POV either.

 

[offtheback]

If I owned or managed a security company, drone coverage would be mandatory.

A Mini could have spotted him.

 

[sawman]

We don't need drone coverage, we need to bring back public hangings for these type crimes.

 

[Bad Santa]

We don't need drone coverage, we need to bring back public hangings for these type crimes.

Would you have the same opinion on a guy who ordered a hit on a boat full of people who may or may not have been moving drugs?

 

[slozukimc]

I think that we're starting to get off point here. Whether or not you agreed with what Charlie Kirk had to say, and I personally didn't, but he had the right to say it.

As we head towards the midterms there's going to to be more and more politicians from both sides holding open air rallies and there will always be disturbed people from both sides who want to silence them.

As an experienced shooter myself I can tell you that for the perpetrator to have made that shot, he had to have been in position for at least 5 minutes before he pulled the trigger so the fact remains that this could have been prevented had the organizers hired a couple of drone pilots to patrol the rooftops and reported any suspicious activity to security or law enforcement.

Stuart Smith.
The Droning Company

Deer hunters spot a deer, lean against a tree and make kill shots at 200 yards on the regular around here. Not that the guy wasn’t there for that long, but he didn’t have to be there for at least five minutes to make that shot.

Looks like he was going for a head shot and didn’t get windage and elevation just right to me.

What bugs me is the person that took video of the shooter and was “just sayin” there is somebody on the roof but didn’t have sense enough to call 911 instead of taking a video to post for attention. Disgusting.

Mike

 

[offtheback]

We don't need drone coverage, we need to bring back public hangings for these type crimes.

Put em on pay per view.

 

[slozukimc]

Put em on pay per view.

Interesting way to fund prison costs……

 

[Cymruflyer]

I feel that a single drone popped up a minute before a speaker coming on the platform would have easily seen the form of a body in a laying down position at the Kirk and the PA incident. So simple and so effective to pick out a form from above on a building, I'm sure, as building tops were light and figures were dark.

That would have given time for the powers that be to have done some investigating and/or arresting of the subjects seen in those rooftop positions and lives probably would have been saved. I am amazed that such a security feature is not used.

 

[tstr14]

We don't need drone coverage, we need to bring back public hangings for these type crimes.

Or even pubic hangings...