Believe it or not? DJI rep says they pay all tariffs.

[Dave Pitman]

Because that's the topic of this thread, and I'm trying to stay on topic.

So, the DJI store writes the check for the tariff. Then the DJI store bumps the price for the drone. The drone now costs more when you buy it. But you are not paying the tariff, DJI is.
Is that what you are suggesting...on topic?

 

[msinger]

So, the DJI store writes the check for the tariff. Then the DJI store bumps the price for the drone. The drone now costs more when you buy it. But you are not paying the tariff, DJI is.
Is that what you are suggesting...on topic?

Please read the OP above. Nobody is asking why DJI drones will cost more. That should be common knowledge at this point since it's all the mainstream news discusses anymore.

 

[MS Coast]

What does that have to do with this thread? The thread you created to discuss who pays the tariff on DJI purchases.

Hmm. And here I've been, thinking that I created the thread to report what a DJI rep said about tariffs on shipments to the US, question whether the statement is accurate, and ask if anyone has purchased a drone from DJI that was subject to tariffs.

I know who pays the tariffs - the importer. And the cost of the tariffs will be wholly or partially passed on to the end purchaser. And since DJI and retailers can't possibly absorb a 145% cost adder, end purchasers of DJI drones subject to the 145% tariffs will be faced with significant price increases. I don't think anyone can argue with that.

 

[tstr14]

Hmm. And here I've been, thinking that I created the thread to report what a DJI rep said about tariffs on shipments to the US, question whether the statement is accurate, and ask if anyone has purchased a drone from DJI that was subject to tariffs.

I know who pays the tariffs - the importer. And the cost of the tariffs will be wholly or partially passed on to the end purchaser. And since DJI and retailers can't possibly absorb a 145% cost adder, end purchasers of DJI drones subject to the 145% tariffs will be faced with significant price increases. I don't think anyone can argue with that.

I appreciate your original post and your intent, but I believe whoever was responding on dji's end was either grievously mistaken or a runner up for liar of the year award.

 

[msinger]

And since DJI and retailers can't possibly absorb a 145% cost adder, end purchasers of DJI drones subject to the 145% tariffs will be faced with significant price increases. I don't think anyone can argue with that.

I think the fact that DJI has started raising prices in their store already supports this. DJI doesn't typically increase prices like this without reason, so it's likely due to the new tariff costs (as I believe the DJI employee confirmed in your screenshots).

I see you're suggesting the DJI employee may have given you incorrect information. If that's the case, what do you believe is causing the sharp price increases in the DJI store, if not the new tariffs?

 

[MS Coast]

I appreciate your original post and your intent, but I believe whoever was responding on dji's end was either grievously mistaken or a runner up for liar of the year award.

And it may be that it's true only temporarily, until the tariffs are applicable to the stock they're selling.

 

[MS Coast]

so it's likely due to the new tariff costs (as I believe the DJI employee confirmed in your screenshots).

There was no discussion of price increases or their cause.

I see you're suggesting the DJI employee may have given you incorrect information. If that's the case, what do you believe is causing the sharp price increases in the DJI store, if not the new tariffs?

I'm not interested in imagining or speculating on the cause of their price increases.

 

[microlinux]

If you want to understand the effects of the tariffs on pricing, see the current cost of the Matrice 4 series.

 

[mavic3usa]

We don't know anything for sure but I think DJI made it clear their pricing is being impacted by the tariffs. Still doesn't tell us exactly in what way but it would be ridiculous to claim the tariff in no way impacts the price which DJI charges the end consumers. The image below captured from DJI.com support this guess where they reference "Pre-Tariff pricing." Let me know if you want to see what "Post-Tariff pricing" looks like from DJI and again, we don't know exactly why but it is what it is meaning "DJI is getting paid more for the same/similar product" for a reason.

When I say "we don't know for sure" is because there is no guarantee that you won't get a tariff bill from the US government should your Pocket land at a DHL stateside facility; however, it kinda really does point to the thought that DJI paid tariff$ to the US to get this product into the hands of US customers so they don't have to make a separate payment to the government. Nobody knows the true math.

 

[msinger]

I'm not interested in imagining or speculating on the cause of their price increases.

Thanks to Vic Moss, who confirmed exactly what the DJI employee told you in post #12 above. At this point, multiple DJI employees have confirmed it, yet you still seem intent on disputing what's clearly true.

I guess you'll just have to kick back and watch it all play out.

 

[msinger]

When I say "we don't know for sure" is because there is no guarantee that you won't get a tariff bill from the US government should your Pocket land at a DHL stateside facility; however, it kinda really does point to the thought that DJI paid tariff$ to the US to get this product into the hands of US customers so they don't have to make a separate payment to the government.

Just imagine if DJI significantly raised their prices for no reason, and then still made consumers cover the tariff after their order was held in Customs. I mean anything is possible, but this is just absolutely comical at this point.

 

[Dave Pitman]

Please read the OP above. Nobody is asking why DJI drones will cost more. That should be common knowledge at this point since it's all the mainstream news discusses anymore.

Go in circles much?

So now your assertion is "sure they cost more but it's not because of the tariffs?"

 

[msinger]

Go in circles much?

So now your assertion is "sure they cost more but it's not because of the tariffs?"

Is this a serious question? I feel like you're just trolling me at this point.

 

[Zbip57]

Is this a serious question? I feel like you're just trolling me at this point.

All along you've been insisting that China pays the tariff, making it sound as though you think China "absorbs" that cost and US consumers wouldn't see any difference.

It's what your administration promised in the election campaign. "Tariff" is the most beautiful word in the dictionary, and tariffs will make America so rich that income tax will be eliminated. Only now the effects are beginning to be felt; American children will get only two dolls instead of thirty. "And maybe the two dolls will cost a couple bucks more than they would normally,"

This is just more muddying;

Let's stay on the topic of this thread though instead of muddying the waters.
1) If I purchase a drone from the DJI store and DJI (the "importer") ships the drone directly from China to my house in the US, who pays the tariff?
2) If I purchase a drone from the DJI store and DJI (the "importer") ships the drone from a DJI warehouse in the US to my house in the US, who pays the tariff?

In both of those, the US "importer" pays the tariff. The only question is who ultimately "absorbs" that cost. DJI-America is the importer, and they're not providing that service for free.

If you purchase anything from China to be delivered directly to your house, then YOU are the importer. The package will be intercepted by Customs until YOU pay the tariff.
If DHL, or FedEx, or whoever, is handling the delivery, then THEY are the importer and pay the tariff on your behalf, but you most certainly will receive a bill to pay for that service.
If DJI-America receives the delivery from China, then DJI-America is the importer who pays the tariff and similarly bills you for that service.

DHL, or FedEx, most certainly will never "absorb" that cost without passing it on the end consumer.

It is purely a marketing and business decision whether or not DJI-America is subsidized by its parent company DJI-China to soften the blow to their loyal American consumers. But no business is going to survive in the long term if they choose to "absorb" all of the cost of a 145% tariff.

US consumers will feel the pain of these tariffs as consumer prices of imported Chinese products will go up.

 

[MS Coast]

Thanks to Vic Moss, who confirmed exactly what the DJI employee told you in post #12 above. At this point, multiple DJI employees have confirmed it, yet you still seem intent on disputing what's clearly true.

This seems far more important to you than it is to me. Heck, I'm not even sure what clear truth you think I'm disputing.

As I documented, a DJI representative said DJI would pay all import fees and tariffs on a Mini 4 basic package I might have purchased on July 2 for $759. They did not say that the policy would continue to apply to after the 145% tariffs come into play. I understand that others may expect otherwise.

I believe that DJI will not cover all or even most of a 145% tariff on a Mavic 4 Pro that I might buy next month without a charging a significantly higher sale price than what would be charged in countries without significant tariffs.

I guess you'll just have to kick back and watch it all play out.

As will we all. Over and out.

 

[msinger]

All along you've been insisting that China pays the tariff, making it sound as though you think China "absorbs" that cost and US consumers wouldn't see any difference.

At no point did I claim that China is going to absorb 100% of the tariffs on everything it sells to the US. That's an exaggerated and easily disproven statement. This thread alone contains several examples showing DJI has already added (or plans to add) at least a portion of their tariff cost to their DJI store prices.

 

[msinger]

They did not say that the policy would continue to apply to after the 145% tariffs come into play. I understand that others may expect otherwise.

DJI referred you to this page (from your screenshot), which clearly states the following:
"Any additional duties incurred during the import process will be paid for by DJI."

Of course, DJI could change its policy at any time, just as the 145% tariff could change at any time.

I believe that DJI will not cover all or even most of a 145% tariff on a Mavic 4 Pro that I might buy next month without a charging a significantly higher sale price than what would be charged in countries without significant tariffs.

DJI is going to pay (or "cover") that tariff either way since they're assuming responsibility for all duties incurred during the import process.

And yes, it's entirely reasonable to expect a price increase in the DJI store, given how significantly these tariffs must affect their bottom line. They've already said they would raise prices. And then they started doing it.

At this point, there's really nothing left to speculate about. The facts are out there, plain as day for everyone to see.

 

[Dave Pitman]

DJI referred you to this page (from your screenshot), which clearly states the following:
"Any additional duties incurred during the import process will be paid for by DJI."

Of course, DJI could change its policy at any time, just as the 145% tariff could change at any time.



DJI is going to pay (or "cover") that tariff either way since they're assuming responsibility for all duties incurred during the import process.

And yes, it's entirely reasonable to expect a price increase in the DJI store, given how significantly these tariffs must affect their bottom line. They've already said they would raise prices. And then they started doing it.

At this point, there's really nothing left to speculate about. The facts are out there, plain as day for everyone to see.

Are you purposely being dense, or you honestly do not grasp that DJI America is writing the tariff check to Donald. And then is adding some amount of that to the price of the drone.

 

[msinger]

Are you purposely being dense, or you honestly do not grasp that DJI America is writing the tariff check to Donald. And then is adding some amount of that to the price of the drone.

Is this a serious question?

You're repeating exactly what I already said, then asking why I don't agree with it. Of course that's what's happening.

 

[Dave Pitman]

Is this a serious question?

You're repeating exactly what I already said, then asking why I don't agree with it. Of course that's what's happening.

Great. It's settled then!