DJI Mini 5 Pro in Amazon. Is this legit?

[msinger]

I'm not a fan of the DJI RC-N3

Same. But I don't need more duplicate RC 2 remote controllers either

 

[mavic3usa]

Prime and next day delivery is now a shoe in!

However, to be clear, this is only the Intelligent Battery version intended for the EU, and not the Intelligent Plus battery version that has 50% more flight time, which is the version that makes the most sense in the U.S., since both versions transmit RID and require pilot registration anyway, because they all weigh over 250g. The Plus version with the much better RC 2 controller was on Prime two day delivery for only $200 more at $1159 just two weeks ago, and legit!

A buyer might want to buy the base package if you already had the Plus combo and you wanted a 2nd M5P as a backup; you could sell the RC-N3.

If I see another Plus package listed on Amazon for $1159, I might buy it for the batteries and then maybe sell the RC2 and the drone single.

Hopefully Amazon and these resellers do the same for the NEO 2. Perhaps they have learned from the eBay experience.

 

[GadgetGuy]

Good deal though I'm not a fan of the DJI RC-N3

Most of us already have an RC 2 or RC Pro 2, but you really do want the Intelligent Plus batteries rather than three of the Intelligent batteries. It's kind of like buying the 200g Chinese Mini batteries that were required there for their Mini 2. No benefit here to the lighter battery other than saving a few dollars when three of the Plus batteries would only be $60 more. The best thing about the M5P is the extended flight time, over any other Mini.

 

[GadgetGuy]

Same. But I don't need more duplicate RC 2 remote controllers either

It doesn't appear that a Combo with the three Plus batteries and the cheaper RC-N3 is available. The RC 2 would be more marketable for resale than the RC-N3.

 

[msinger]

It doesn't appear that a Combo with the three Plus batteries and the cheaper RC-N3 is available. The RC 2 would be more marketable for resale than the RC-N3.

That's correct. I'm not looking to sell any of my gear, so this package was perfect for me.

 

[GadgetGuy]

That's correct. I'm not looking to sell any of my gear, so this package was perfect for me.

Indeed. The much shorter flight time is also not an issue for you, but should be a serious consideration for most other U.S. purchasers.

 

[Bad Santa]

Most of us already have an RC 2 or RC Pro 2, but you really do want the Intelligent Plus batteries rather than three of the Intelligent batteries. It's kind of like buying the 200g Chinese Mini batteries that were required there for their Mini 2. No benefit here to the lighter battery other than saving a few dollars when three of the Plus batteries would only be $60 more. The best thing about the M5P is the extended flight time, over any other Mini.

Isn't the fly more combo including the Plus batteries?

 

[msinger]

Isn't the fly more combo including the Plus batteries?

It depends on which of these combos you purchase:

 

[GadgetGuy]

Isn't the fly more combo including the Plus batteries?

No, as @msinger stated, there are three M5P combos, none of which includes the RC-N3 with the Plus batteries. The cheaper combos everywhere are the EU combos with only the standard batteries, because it is not legal to sell or use the Plus batteries in the EU. When this thread was started, the Plus battery combo was the only one that was not 2 day Prime, and was only listed as Fulfilled by Amazon with a delivery date 13 days later. The following weekend, the Plus Combo with the RC 2 showed up as 2 Day Prime for the same $1159 price. That's the one I would recommend, but the only ones available now are either way more expensive, or only include the standard EU batteries.

 

[msinger]

The cheaper combos everywhere are the EU combos with only the standard batteries, because it is not legal to sell or use the Plus batteries in the EU

Just to clear up any confusion, DJI doesn't make an "EU battery" or sell "EU combos". You're referring to the standard Mini 5 Pro battery.

DJI has always offered two options, the standard Mini "Battery" and the Mini "Battery Plus". The Battery Plus provides longer flight time but is heavier, which used to be an issue for some older Mini models since it pushed them over the registration weight limit.

For the Mini 5 Pro, DJI lists the weight as 249.9 grams, but depending on manufacturing tolerances and your scale's accuracy, it might reach or slightly exceed 250 grams. If that happens, FAA registration would be required in the US.

 

[Bad Santa]

So "fly more" combo just means 3 batteries? OK

 

[mavic3usa]

So "fly more" combo just means 3 batteries? OK

Correct. There's Fly More Combo and Fly More Combo Plus.

 

[davedrone 178]

Amazon has the Stock M5 with the N-3 for only $759, That's the best your gonna find. Can't beat Amazon. That got my M5 Combo Plus too me on time and "under budget". What an
incredible camera!

 

[GadgetGuy]

Just to clear up any confusion, DJI doesn't make an "EU battery" or sell "EU combos". You're referring to the standard Mini 5 Pro battery.

DJI has always offered two options, the standard Mini "Battery" and the Mini "Battery Plus". The Battery Plus provides longer flight time but is heavier, which used to be an issue for some older Mini models since it pushed them over the registration weight limit.

For the Mini 5 Pro, DJI lists the weight as 249.9 grams, but depending on manufacturing tolerances and your scale's accuracy, it might reach or slightly exceed 250 grams. If that happens, FAA registration would be required in the US.

It's a distinction without a difference. Because DJI chose to broadcast RID in the U.S. with the standard battery, regardless of the weight, and all Mini 5 Pros with the standard battery, in fact, weigh over 250g, all Mini 5 Pro configurations require pilot registration in the U.S.. There is no reason whatsoever to buy the Mini 5 Pro with standard batteries, when the Plus battery versions are legal in the U.S. and both versions require pilot registration and broadcast RID in the U.S..

Therefore, the standard battery configuration is now exclusively an EU product, as the EU allows a 3% tolerance, and it still qualifies under their sub 250g regulations, despite weighing 254g. The Plus battery versions are not legal in the EU. The only legal version in the EU is the standard battery version. Hence, the "EU version," even if DJI has not labeled it as such. DJI has, however, uniquely labeled all the "EU versions" of the M5P drone sold with the standard battery as C0 drones, which is only an EU classification with the height limited to 120 meters. So, the ONLY reason for an American to buy a C0 drone is for use in the EU, where Plus batteries are prohibited.

There is no American version, as DJI is not selling the M5P in the U.S.
The only reason anyone would have chosen the Standard version was to avoid RID broadcasting and pilot registration, which are now both compulsory, as DJI chose to broadcast RID regardless of which battery is used, and has been unable to keep the weight below 250g.

Given the choice, after it became clear the standard version still broadcasts RID and requires registration, every U.S. forum member who purchased from S. Korea has ordered the Plus version, which is not legal for sale in the EU.

The ONLY other reason to buy the standard battery EU version for use in the United States is because there is no Plus version without purchasing the RC 2, and Amazon Marketplace is only offering the EU standard battery C0 version with the cheaper RC-N3. So the two EU Standard C0 versions (single battery, or Combo 3 battery) have become the poor man's, entry level version of the M5P.

 

[GadgetGuy]

Correct. There's Fly More Combo and Fly More Combo Plus.

The Fly More Combo Plus with three Plus batteries (52 minutes each) can only be purchased with the better RC 2. It broadcasts RID and requires pilot registration.

There are two Fly More Combo versions with three standard "EU batteries" (36 minutes each). One with the basic RC-N3 and one with the RC 2. Both also broadcasts RID and require pilot registration.

Live a little and get the Fly More Combo Plus. LOL!
50% more flight time with the much more capable RC 2 with a built-in screen that supports dynamic home point.

 

[mavic3usa]

The Fly More Combo Plus with three Plus batteries (52 minutes each) can only be purchased with the better RC 2. It broadcasts RID and requires pilot registration.

There are two Fly More Combo versions with three standard "EU batteries" (36 minutes each). One with the basic RC-N3 and one with the RC 2. Both also broadcasts RID and require pilot registration.

Live a little and get the Fly More Combo Plus. LOL!
50% more flight time with the much more capable RC 2 with a built-in screen that supports dynamic home point.

I agree there's no reason to buy the Fly More Combo in the US instead of the Fly More Combo Plus.

If DJI sold a Fly More Combo Plus with 3 Plus batteries and they also sold a Fly More Combo Less where they intentionally drained down the Plus battery's power halfway but only discounted the price by a few dollars, no one in the US would buy it if that's the only difference. It would be apparent.

The only reason someone in the US would buy the Fly More Combo with 3 Standard batteries is they don't understand the difference because it makes no sense when you do the math. Perhaps Americans are used to buying that "standard battery" configuration. Because of the wild pricing, the price difference between the Fly More Combo and the Fly More Combo Plus are not always a few dollars so it's not always apparent when shopping especially when buyers seek to pay a little as they can but get quantity 3 in batteries and also get the screen remote.

Or, as I surmised earlier, they plan to fly the M5P unregistered hoping they can get away with it while using standard battery unlike flying with the Plus battery which they *know* they won't be able to get away with it. Unlike in other countries, the US FAA has not published an official response to the overweight drone, at least not that I've seen.

Finally, I believe the "travel drone" dream continues to resonate with some flyers who feel they need to have a drone they can officially take with them should they decide to travel abroad and perhaps they continue to feel the M5P with the standard battery is the only configuration they stand a chance with. Easy enough to just buy a standard battery or two for those once or twice a year trips to the few countries that accept the overweight M5P with standard battery but still the "<250g drone makes the rules disappear" sentiment lives on.

 

[whazzup]

I saw the $759 base on Amazon. Having an M3P with the RC, I could never go back to using the phone. The combos with RC 2 are all nearly $1k more so I guess it’s still waiting time.

Interesting conversation. After hearing all sides I agree it makes no sense to not get the Plus battery and just register the drone.

 

[GadgetGuy]

I saw the $759 base on Amazon. Having an M3P with the RC, I could never go back to using the phone. The combos with RC 2 are all nearly $1k more so I guess it’s still waiting time.

Interesting conversation. After hearing all sides I agree it makes no sense to not get the Plus battery and just register the drone.

I agree there's no reason to buy the Fly More Combo in the US instead of the Fly More Combo Plus.

If DJI sold a Fly More Combo Plus with 3 Plus batteries and they also sold a Fly More Combo Less where they intentionally drained down the Plus battery's power halfway but only discounted the price by a few dollars, no one in the US would buy it if that's the only difference. It would be apparent.

The only reason someone in the US would buy the Fly More Combo with 3 Standard batteries is they don't understand the difference because it makes no sense when you do the math. Perhaps Americans are used to buying that "standard battery" configuration. Because of the wild pricing, the price difference between the Fly More Combo and the Fly More Combo Plus are not always a few dollars so it's not always apparent when shopping especially when buyers seek to pay a little as they can but get quantity 3 in batteries and also get the screen remote.

Or, as I surmised earlier, they plan to fly the M5P unregistered hoping they can get away with it while using standard battery unlike flying with the Plus battery which they *know* they won't be able to get away with it. Unlike in other countries, the US FAA has not published an official response to the overweight drone, at least not that I've seen.

Finally, I believe the "travel drone" dream continues to resonate with some flyers who feel they need to have a drone they can officially take with them should they decide to travel abroad and perhaps they continue to feel the M5P with the standard battery is the only configuration they stand a chance with. Easy enough to just buy a standard battery or two for those once or twice a year trips to the few countries that accept the overweight M5P with standard battery but still the "<250g drone makes the rules disappear" sentiment lives on.

Kind of like small and large size beverages which have been changed to regular and grande. No one wants a small. On the other hand, a fat one is politically incorrect. So, instead, we have now have a Plus size version and a Regular, which is really a small!! So Europeans get the skinny one, and Americans get the fat one! LOL!