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So, are you suggesting that, if it is shipped by Amazon, even though it is a third party marketplace seller, the worthless A to Z Guarantee covering all third party seller purchases does not apply?
I highlighted the most important part of that policy above, which explains that the 3rd party seller must both sell and fulfill the order. But please don't just take my word for it. I included a link to the policy on Amazon's website so you can read it yourself.


if you read the Critical Reviews for these third party sellers selling DJI drones, are all TERRIBLE!
The sky is falling, Chicken Little! Honestly, that's a pretty silly statement and one that's easy to disprove. For example, the current seller in the buy box on that listing doesn't have "TERRIBLE" reviews.

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Amazon is only warehousing and delivering the seller's merchandise, not guaranteeing it.
That's correct.

I was only replying to your comment about people definitely getting scammed. If Amazon ships a product and it's not what you expected, you can return it directly to Amazon for free as long as it's within the return window. There's really zero risk when Amazon ships the product, which is honestly why I personally buy so much from them.

As for guaranteeing the merchandise itself, you're right that Amazon won't do that for a 3rd party seller. What they do guarantee is that you'll receive what you believed you were purchasing. That means it's essentially impossible to get scammed when buying from Amazon, since they'll make it right at no cost to you.
 
There are still some Neo models out there. Sale or not. I bought one from B&H a few weeks ago with no problems at all. As for sending stuff back to Amazon my wife knows everyone on a first name basis at 3 UPS stores. We have never had a problem. Not saying others have not but speaking from our own experience.
 
I jumped at that neo deal. Box came sealed. Everything new in the box. I've been flying it around the house. Looking forward to getting it outside.
 

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I highlighted the most important part of that policy above, which explains that the 3rd party seller must both sell and fulfill the order. But please don't just take my word for it. I included a link to the policy on Amazon's website so you can read it yourself.



The sky is falling, Chicken Little! Honestly, that's a pretty silly statement and one that's easy to disprove. For example, the current seller in the buy box on that listing doesn't have "TERRIBLE" reviews.

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That's correct.

I was only replying to your comment about people definitely getting scammed. If Amazon ships a product and it's not what you expected, you can return it directly to Amazon for free as long as it's within the return window. There's really zero risk when Amazon ships the product, which is honestly why I personally buy so much from them.

As for guaranteeing the merchandise itself, you're right that Amazon won't do that for a 3rd party seller. What they do guarantee is that you'll receive what you believed you were purchasing. That means it's essentially impossible to get scammed when buying from Amazon, since they'll make it right at no cost to you.
If you only filter by "All stars" you are not getting the true picture. I made it very clear that you must filter by "All critical reviews" which includes all the TERRIBLE one star reviews that Amazon deliberately suppresses by striking them out, falsely claiming the the complaint is Amazon's fault, not the seller's fault, because Amazon was supposedly responsible for the fulfillment of the order. Yet the complaints range from the wrong or defective or used merchandise being supplied by the seller to Amazon, to never receiving the merchandise, to the seller denying return of the merchandise. Your "lovely" 5 star AeroTech Hubs is one the WORST 3rd Party sellers on Amazon Marketplace, and is no longer linked to selling any Neos. Amazon is now cycling through the other 1 star review scam sellers.

Amazon does nothing to protect the buyer from these scam sellers, and actually promotes them, as you are doing, solely because you make a few bucks off clicks, no matter what happens afterwards. Feeling lucky? Buy from a 3rd party Amazon DJI drone seller, and hope you get lucky. Want to reliably get what you are paying for? Buy from any of the vetted S. Korean eBay sellers of DJI drones, as has everyone else that has had a good experience.
 
If you only filter by "All stars" you are not getting the true picture. I made it very clear that you must filter by "All critical reviews" which includes all the TERRIBLE one star reviews that Amazon deliberately suppresses by striking them out, falsely claiming the the complaint is Amazon's fault, not the seller's fault, because Amazon was supposedly responsible for the fulfillment of the order. Yet the complaints range from the wrong or defective or used merchandise being supplied by the seller to Amazon, to never receiving the merchandise, to the seller denying return of the merchandise.
Unfortunately, it seems you haven't taken the time to read or understand Amazon's policies. When Amazon fulfills an order, as it did in the case of the deal I posted, the seller isn't able to deny returns. I'm sure this probably won't change your mind, and that's fine, but for context, I'm a 3rd party seller on Amazon and have firsthand experience with how their policies work. But again, you don't have to take my word for it. Go check out the policies yourself and see what they say.


Your "lovely" 5 star AeroTech Hubs is one the WORST 3rd Party sellers on Amazon Marketplace, and is no longer linked to selling any Neos. Amazon is now cycling through the other 1 star review scam sellers.
I can't really say how lovely they are or aren't, but all of their most recent reviews are 5 stars (pages and pages of them). Plus, they're still listed, which means they definitely have Neos in Amazon's warehouses for fulfillment by Amazon.

Serious question. Do you ever take the time to check your claims before posting? None of them have been accurate so far.
 
Unfortunately, it seems you haven't taken the time to read or understand Amazon's policies. When Amazon fulfills an order, as it did in the case of the deal I posted, the seller isn't able to deny returns. I'm sure this probably won't change your mind, and that's fine, but for context, I'm a 3rd party seller on Amazon and have firsthand experience with how their policies work. But again, you don't have to take my word for it. Go check out the policies yourself and see what they say.



I can't really say how lovely they are or aren't, but all of their most recent reviews are 5 stars (pages and pages of them). Plus, they're still listed, which means they definitely have Neos in Amazon's warehouses for fulfillment by Amazon.

Serious question. Do you ever take the time to check your claims before posting? None of them have been accurate so far.
It is you who is making claims without backing them up with proof. You persist in denying the facts I have presented, and keep making excuses, referring to "policies" that you claim exist that no one else can verify, to justify your self-serving promotion of Amazon Marketplace Sellers that you collect a commission upon promoting, which are deceiving, leading the buyer to falsely believe they are buying from the DJI Store, or from Amazon LLC, neither of which sell any DJI drones.

Please provide written proof that when Amazon is fulfilling a 3rd Party Marketplace Seller order from a random foreign seller in China that the seller isn't able to deny returns, and that the sale is not covered by the A to Z warrantee, when the buyer doesn’t get what they have ordered.

Current chosen 3rd Party Marketplace Seller under your affiliate link:
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It is you who is making claims without backing them up with proof. You persist in denying the facts I have presented, and keep making excuses, referring to "policies" that you claim exist that no one else can verify
I've already explained how Amazon's fulfillment and return policies work, and I even shared official Amazon links so you can review them yourself. You're the only one continuing to make unsupported claims without any proof.

Others in this thread have confirmed some of the points I mentioned, including that when Amazon handles fulfillment, they also take care of the returns. And the seller for the deal I shared was indeed selling brand new DJI Neos as advertised.


to justify your self-serving promotion of Amazon Marketplace Sellers that you collect a commission upon promoting, which are deceiving, leading the buyer to falsely believe they are buying from the DJI Store, or from Amazon LLC, neither of which sell any DJI drones
I never said these drones were sold by the DJI Store or Amazon LLC. And the fact that they weren't sold directly by those sellers doesn't make the deal any less valuable. While I personally prefer to buy from the DJI Store when stock is available, that option might not never be available again in the US.

The whole reason I shared it was because the Neo was being offered at the lowest price I've ever seen. And since the orders were being fulfilled by Amazon, a well-known company, it clearly wasn't a scam. I thought it was worth sharing for anyone interested in getting a Neo at a great price.


Please provide written proof that when Amazon is fulfilling a 3rd Party Marketplace Seller order from a random foreign seller in China that the seller isn't able to deny returns, and that the sale is not covered by the A to Z warrantee, when the buyer doesn’t get what they have ordered.
When you buy something on Amazon, you'll see the applicable return policy right below the buy button. For example, here's the return policy shown for the current seller in the buy box:

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That "See return policy" link takes you to the Amazon Return Policy, which explains how fulfillment and returns work. It's always best to read the policy yourself, but in short, a refund is issued once Amazon receives the returned item and confirms that you’re eligible for a refund.

The key point is that the company fulfilling the order is the one that decides whether a refund applies and processes it. That's why it's generally a good idea to buy items that "ship from Amazon" whenever possible since Amazon handles those returns directly. Amazon's return process is usually fast, simple, and free.

If you choose to buy from a seller that also ships their own products, Amazon still protects you through its A-to-z Guarantee. I've already linked the full policy above, but here's a quick summary:

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The A-to-z Guarantee applies only when an item is both sold and fulfilled by a 3rd party seller. It doesn't apply when Amazon handles fulfillment, because Amazon uses its own return policy in those cases. Again though, please don't just take my word for it. Go read the policy yourself to clear up any doubts you might have.

As for reviews, focusing only on the worst ones doesn't tell the full story. Nearly every seller has a few unhappy customers. Even major retailers like Best Buy have negative reviews from people claiming things like they sell used items as new.

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That's just the nature of reviews. Anyone can post one, even if their claim isn't accurate. And then the majority of happy customers never leave reviews. So when a seller has mostly positive feedback, it's usually a good sign that most buyers are having a positive experience.

Amazon removes reviews about its own fulfillment or return process when they’re left under a 3rd party seller's page, since those reviews don't reflect the seller's performance. That approach makes sense and helps keep things fair.
 
I've already explained how Amazon's fulfillment and return policies work, and I even shared official Amazon links so you can review them yourself. You're the only one continuing to make unsupported claims without any proof.

Others in this thread have confirmed some of the points I mentioned, including that when Amazon handles fulfillment, they also take care of the returns. And the seller for the deal I shared was indeed selling brand new DJI Neos as advertised.



I never said these drones were sold by the DJI Store or Amazon LLC. And the fact that they weren't sold directly by those sellers doesn't make the deal any less valuable. While I personally prefer to buy from the DJI Store when stock is available, that option might not never be available again in the US.

The whole reason I shared it was because the Neo was being offered at the lowest price I've ever seen. And since the orders were being fulfilled by Amazon, a well-known company, it clearly wasn't a scam. I thought it was worth sharing for anyone interested in getting a Neo at a great price.



When you buy something on Amazon, you'll see the applicable return policy right below the buy button. For example, here's the return policy shown for the current seller in the buy box:

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That "See return policy" link takes you to the Amazon Return Policy, which explains how fulfillment and returns work. It's always best to read the policy yourself, but in short, a refund is issued once Amazon receives the returned item and confirms that you’re eligible for a refund.

The key point is that the company fulfilling the order is the one that decides whether a refund applies and processes it. That's why it's generally a good idea to buy items that "ship from Amazon" whenever possible since Amazon handles those returns directly. Amazon's return process is usually fast, simple, and free.

If you choose to buy from a seller that also ships their own products, Amazon still protects you through its A-to-z Guarantee. I've already linked the full policy above, but here's a quick summary:

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The A-to-z Guarantee applies only when an item is both sold and fulfilled by a 3rd party seller. It doesn't apply when Amazon handles fulfillment, because Amazon uses its own return policy in those cases. Again though, please don't just take my word for it. Go read the policy yourself to clear up any doubts you might have.

As for reviews, focusing only on the worst ones doesn't tell the full story. Nearly every seller has a few unhappy customers. Even major retailers like Best Buy have negative reviews from people claiming things like they sell used items as new.

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That's just the nature of reviews. Anyone can post one, even if their claim isn't accurate. And then the majority of happy customers never leave reviews. So when a seller has mostly positive feedback, it's usually a good sign that most buyers are having a positive experience.

Amazon removes reviews about its own fulfillment or return process when they’re left under a 3rd party seller's page, since those reviews don't reflect the seller's performance. That approach makes sense and helps keep things fair.
With all due respect, you have a conflict of interest. You are making money off of promoting these pseudo Amazon sales that Amazon itself is deceptively selling as though DJI USA is selling them, or as though Amazon itself is selling them, when, in fact, these are DJI products being sold by disreputable 3rd Party Amazon sellers on Amazon Marketplace, with facilitation and subterfuge by Amazon, pretending that these scam sellers have 5 star ratings, but only because Amazon suppresses all the Critical Reviews of the scam sellers they are currently promoting in the review ratings.

How else do you explain a critical review stating after 2 months they are still waiting for a refund, when Amazon states they were responsible for the fulfillment? Every one of these Critical Reviews are complaints about the seller, not Amazon, and yet Amazon says it is irrelevant because Anazon was responsible for the fulfillment of the order. Either Amazon is doing a terrible job of handling the fulfillment of all these third party scam sellers, or Amazon is just striking out all critical reviews of the seller, even when the complaint has nothing to do with Amazon's fulfillment, because it was not an Amazon fulfillment, in which case Amazon is falsely claiming it was an Amazon fulfillment! Amazon is the one scamming their customers with these shyster sellers, and you are helping them, because both you and Amazon are both making money off the scam sellers sales, regardless of what happens to the unsuspecting buyer, who has no idea they are buying from a random scam seller in China, believing DJI USA is the seller!

Don't you find it at least a little deceptive for Amazon to list and link the now nonexistent DJI Store with 9390 reviews for an item being sold by an obscure random Chinese third party seller that doesn't even have a capital letter in their business name?

It's sleazy and deceptive. Neither Amazon LLC nor DJI have sold any DJI drones on Amazon in over a year!

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With all due respect, you have a conflict of interest. You are making money off of promoting these pseudo Amazon sales that Amazon itself is deceptively selling as though DJI USA is selling them, or as though Amazon itself is selling them, when, in fact, these are DJI products being sold by disreputable 3rd Party Amazon sellers on Amazon Marketplace, with facilitation and subterfuge by Amazon, pretending that these scam sellers have 5 star ratings, but only because Amazon suppresses all the Critical Reviews of the scam sellers they are currently promoting in the review ratings.
If someone else had posted this deal before me, it wouldn't have made it any less valuable or any more likely to be a scam.

It's disappointing to see the thread taken off topic after it's been clearly confirmed that this deal wasn't a scam, as you claimed. Instead of acknowledging that, you're now choosing to attack me personally for earning a living in a way that just seems unfamiliar to you.


How else do you explain a critical review stating after 2 months they are still waiting for a refund, when Amazon states they were responsible for the fulfillment?
Reviewers can post whatever they want, including possibly an incomplete story or even something that's not true.


Don't you find it at least a little deceptive for Amazon to list and link the now nonexistent DJI Store with 9390 reviews for an item being sold by an obscure random Chinese third party seller that doesn't even have a capital letter in their business name?
Not at all since that's not what Amazon is showing you. What you circled is the manufacturer of the item in the listing. For example, here's Amazon selling and shipping a product from Klein Tools. Amazon doesn't list themselves as the manufacturer, because, well, they aren't the manufacturer.

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It's sleazy and deceptive. Neither Amazon LLC nor DJI have sold any DJI drones on Amazon in over a year!
There's nothing sleazy or deceptive about the Amazon marketplace. It's one of the safest places to shop online in the US. Since Amazon fulfills most of the items sold there, people generally have a smooth and reliable shopping experience.

Let's be honest, it's a lot safer than suggesting people in the US should roll the dice and order drones from Japan or South Korea. That said, I'd personally buy from sellers in Japan or South Korea if they had the best prices or were the only ones with stock, as long as their overall reviews were positive.
 
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If someone else had posted this deal before me, it wouldn't have made it any less valuable or any more likely to be a scam.

It's disappointing to see the thread taken off topic after it's been clearly confirmed that this deal wasn't a scam, as you claimed. Instead of acknowledging that, you're now choosing to attack me personally for earning a living in a way that just seems unfamiliar to you.



Reviewers can post whatever they want, including possibly an incomplete story or even something that's not true.



Not at all since that's not what Amazon is showing you. What you circled is the manufacturer of the item in the listing. For example, here's Amazon selling and shipping a product from Klein Tools. Amazon doesn't list themselves as the manufacturer, because, well, they aren't the manufacturer.

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There's nothing sleazy or deceptive about the Amazon marketplace. It's one of the safest places to shop online in the US. Since Amazon fulfills most of the items sold there, people generally have a smooth and reliable shopping experience.

Let's be honest, it's a lot safer than suggesting people in the US should roll the dice and order drones from Japan or South Korea. That said, I'd personally buy from sellers in Japan or South Korea if they had the best prices or were the only ones with stock, as long as their overall reviews were positive.
Agree to disagree. Your conflict of interest prevents you from being objective.
 
Your conflict of interest prevents you from being objective
I've only shared facts with you, none of which are based on my opinion.
 
I've only shared facts with you, none of which are based on my opinion.
While ignoring the facts I have presented, or dismissing them, or twisting them.
You started this thread with your affiliate link to make money, not because anyone here is going to really get excited over $40 off a cheap $200 drone. I hope it was worth it, because you admit that you have no idea who Amazon is rotating in and out of the link, and you choose to ignore that everyone of these scam sellers have horrible Critical Reviews. You pretend that Amazon's continued use of DJI USA in the listing title is not deceptive, even though it links what purports to be DJI USA's store on Amazon, with no products listed for sale because DJI no longer sells anything on Amazon, and none of these linked 3rd Party Sellers have ever been authorized DJI Dealers. It's misleading and you know it, but refuse to admit it.
 
While ignoring the facts I have presented, or dismissing them, or twisting them.
You haven't shared any actual facts. You've just described your interpretation of how you think Amazon operates, or how you might handle things if you were running Amazon yourself.


You started this thread with your affiliate link to make money, not because anyone here is going to really get excited over $40 off a cheap $200 drone
That's not true. I would have shared the link either way. Whenever I post Amazon links, I always use affiliate ones. And when other people share Amazon links here, even if you did, theirs would be affiliate links too.


I hope it was worth it, because you admit that you have no idea who Amazon is rotating in and out of the link
That's not true. I actually do know how the Amazon buy box works. Did you miss that part above? I'm a 3rd party seller on Amazon.


none of these linked 3rd Party Sellers have ever been authorized DJI Dealers
That's not true. There are several authorized DJI dealers on that listing. Adorama for one.


You pretend that Amazon's continued use of DJI USA in the listing title is not deceptive, even though it links what purports to be DJI USA's store on Amazon
That's not true. As I've shown you, the "deceptive" link you're referring to only points to the manufacturer of the product being sold. See my example above for a non-DJI product.

And with that, I think I'm done here. You've added little to this discussion and only ended up hurting your own credibility.
 
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