Hangar 360 beta

[Oyibo VFX]

Hey all. Just installed Hangar 360 2 beta (build 102) and did my first panorama with Hangar 360 for a while. I normally use the Pano mode in Autopilot.
I must say, it has some great new features (specially sharing over multiple devices is great).

Only one issue but don't know if it is related, GO4 did not record my flight. And this is not the first time.
I have checked the flight records in iTunes. They're just not there.
Will do some more testing.
PS, this is after updating the new firmware

https://world.hangar.com/three-sixty/Nr7EKLPY

 

[Logger]

I would not have expected GO4 to record your flight as it is not the controlling app.
Nice pano BTW.
I much prefer the new interface without the previous cheesy dumb ways to die knock off theme.

Unfortunately all three of my attempts to produce a pano with Hangar 360 2 beta (build 103) have failed at the server side processing. Fortuitously I repeated each 360 with a Litchi Pano and they have worked. So my time and effort was not wasted.

 

[Oyibo VFX]

When I did another pano the next day, GO4 recorded the flight, so what you say is not correct. Have now done a couple of pano's and no problems.
When you did yours, was there enough depth I'm your image? Pure blue skies are bad for pano's

 

[Logger]

Oh well, my Hangar flights don't record in DJIGo4 - never have. But I have no interest in them doing so, in any case.



Overcast so not the blue sky. But maybe my lack of photographic skills. Do you use manual camera exposure for your panos or do you let it run in Auto? I am not even sure if manual camera settings effect Hangar. I do know Hangar overrides previous settings and forces 4:3.
ICE had no major issues stitching the images I took with Litchi.

 

[Oyibo VFX]

Your photo looks good enough. Plenty of field depth. My first pano I took with Hangar 360 also din't work. But that happened only once.
One handy trick... despite the fact that Hangar 360 uploads and processes the panorama, the 23 images are also on your drone's SD card.
I usually uploads to Hangar for things like Facebook but I use Autopano Giga and Panotour Pro for processing the panorama's locally and if they are good enough, I make a Virtual Tour from the same images.
4:3 is the standard for panorama stitching.

The main panorama of the sample is also done with Hangar 360. The rest with a (cheap) 360 camera and some handy work

Azura Virtual Site | Virtual tour by Oyibo VFX

 

[Logger]

Your Azura site looks really good. A Single link to a fullscreen 360 is great for distribution.

Yeah the Hangar images are accessible on SD. But at the point I need them because their process failed to do its job, I might as well use the better Litchi set of 34 I also took as a backup. I have Litchi set to generate 34 images 4x3 rows plus 2 nadirs. Manual exposure control option with Litchi means I can avoid the varied EV that appears to be killing the Hangar 360 v2 process for me atm.

For me the killer feature of Hangar 360 (when it works), apart from the price, is the zero workflow and simple distribution path.

Otherwise is fairly simple to create an adequate 360 out of Litchi, Microsoft ICE and a canvas size tweak in Photoshop to make it 2:1. But then have to find a way to share it to link that is not facepalm. Skypixel is ok but not perfect.

Here are two 360s of the same site using the Free MS ICE to do the stitch. First uses the Hangar 360 set and the second Litchi.

Hangar 23 image set

Litchi 34 image set

Litchi images set are better. Litchi is also much easier to fly the drone to a site that is not vertically above you. I see no way to have the Skypixel output link open full screen which is annoying, but it is free!

Ultimately Hangar 360 is killer when it works. Currently the beta crashes for me every time if I have "Settings > Intro" enabled and all 3 processing attempts have failed.

 

[Oyibo VFX]

Again, mine works fine. I also can fly to another location (even worth GO4 ON the back ground) and shot a Pano. You can see that the engine behind Hangar 360 is the same as Autopilot. 23 images.
One myth, more images does NOT make your image sharper. You use the same camera. What might help is flying lower so less pixels per square cm.
A great feature using Panotour Oud that you can rid of the Nadir. Or, use Photo shop to extend your sky.
I also have a Flickr account that share panorama's. Might have a look there. But I run a server so that is easier. That's why I run full screen images. But you need to process your panorama and upload the batch, not just a single jpg. The set I mentioned above is almost 100 mb

 

[Logger]

..One myth, more images does NOT make your image sharper..

That is a fact. However I find more images generally improves stitching. In my two examples above, the 34 image set stitched the horizon markedly better than the 23 set autopilot/Hangar version. Litchi calculates it needs 8 images per row while autopilot uses 7. I probaly should drop a row in Litchi to total 26 but I am not fussed atm. Will see if hangar 360 allows manual exposure next time I use it. As the Auto setting resulted in a washed out images or me. In the past I had good results with hangar 360 v1 such as this one Hangar 360 Photo

I have put panos in Flickr but it is a bit of a PITA. From memory I had to bodgy the metadata to say the camera is a theta 360 or some such..

 

[Oyibo VFX]

Hey...

Flickr actually works fine. Only issue is that you can't have a full screen
The thing, if you uploaded your panorama (2:1 = essential) you'll need to add a tag.
Then it will work.

This is the link

Lagos

 

[Logger]

Yeah it works.
the thing is it stuffs up the nadir when compare to Hangar360 or Skypixel (krpano viewer)




Still if Autopilot get their Hangar360 sorted, so it is dependable, it will be hard to beat for simplicity.

 

[Oyibo VFX]

That is not correct. I don't know what you're doing but your nadir should not be there.

 

[Logger]

That is not correct. I don't know what you're doing but your nadir should not be there.

That's a snip from the Flickr 360 viewer of your Lagos image and nadir, I am showing as an example. Not mine

 

[Oyibo VFX]

I'm lost

 

[Logger]

It seems so.



Open your image in Flickr and look down vertically. See how the NADIR is all compressed and blurry. Look at the same image nadir in another viewer like Hangar or Skypixel and it will be sharp. Other flickr 360's from proper 360 cameras do not do it so it must be a by product of the image format.

 

[Oyibo VFX]

Yeah, I see what you mean. I have done a snap from my own website (used Kolor Autopano Giga) and as you can see, no nadir. So it must be something inside Flickr.
But I have to admit, never seen this before until you pointed it out.
Thanks for that

 

[Logger]

YES the Nadir is correct in that image and not pinched like in the Flickr version.
You are getting your terminology a little confused though. Your pano has a Nadir. Perhaps your methodology means you do not have to take a dedicated nadir image to produce it, but it is captured. Nadir is simply the imagery at the bottom of the globe beneath the observer. As opposed to the Zenith which is at the top and beyond the capabilities of the Mavic.
It appears it is a known issue with Flickr pinching the nadir and zenith Possible to avoid Flickr's pinching of zenith and nadir? | Equirectangular | Flickr

 

[Kilrah]

As a heads up version 2.0 has now been released publicly.

 

[Oyibo VFX]

Ahhh, ok

 

[Logger]

As a heads up version 2.0 has now been released publicly.

Thanks for the heads up. Shame they did not fix the bugs first. Release version still crashes if I use the INTRO/HELP feature on my iPad.

 

[Boeropreis]

Tested out build 107and it was working like a charm.. Took a little while before it started but the sequence was quick (and it was windy). Picture came out quickly and looks sharp + neat. RTH was accurate... No issues. Would have been nice if Hangar would restore the original video settings after completion of the 360 PANO. Now I have to reset the settings after each Hangar Flight, especially if you want to continue flying after the 360 pano.. See below for the result on the 107 build

https://viewer.hangar.com/360?assetId=/bYLAAPDj