Holy ****…34% tariffs on imports from China

[KB9Radio]

Are we great yet?

 

[spsphotos]

It’s going to sting but don’t forget, everyone seems to think China/DJI is going to “absorb” it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And they will be sorely confused when they don't. We are not the only country that buys drones and crap from China. We will pay for our glorious fuher's BS.

 

[Dale D]

wow, I’m lost for words

This thread is bordering on slipping into a political discussion. I personally think it is too early to evaluate, and that is one of the administration's (Trump's) classical art of the deal negotiating ploys. Let's wait until it plays out for a while. The ideal situation would be zero tariffs on all sides, e.g.: free trade. Maybe that is the end goal.

For my own personal situation, I have no plans to purchase a new drone. My M3 and Mini 4 Pro are sufficient for all of my needs.

Dale

 

[spsphotos]

This thread is bordering on slipping into a political discussion. I personally think it is too early to evaluate, and that is one of the administration's (Trump's) classical art of the deal negotiating ploys. Let's wait until it plays out for a while. The ideal situation would be zero tariffs on all sides, e.g.: free trade. Maybe that is the end goal.

For my own personal situation, I have no plans to purchase a new drone. My M3 and Mini 4 Pro are sufficient for all of my needs.

Dale

Sand. Head. In.

 

[Crash Pro]

wow, I’m lost for

wow, I’m lost for words

Trump’s just trying to help everyone out by making things so expensive that you won’t be able to buy anything's. So, in the end, you’ll be saving money and thus, a lot “richer”. Campaign promises…

 

[PepperBird]

34%? Not too shabby.

Did you catch the 100% tariff on electric vehicles and the 50% on solar cells that rolled out last fall?

There's a lot more to this topic than most people realize. The media tends to gloss over many of these tariffs as it doesn't quite fit their narrative.

There are no CHINESE EVS imported to the US. US EV manufacturers continue to get regulatory subsidies. While Polestar EVs are manufactured in the US.

 

[groggysbird]

With the 20% that was already on its actually 54% tariffs now

 

[Erk1024]

With the 20% that was already on its actually 54% tariffs now

I think this is correct! It's what they said on TLDR (You Tube channel).
That the 34% was on top of the current 20%

 

[Jim622]

And it is exactly 1/2 of the tariffs they put on us.

 

[BlueHeeler]

If one feels that the Tariffs are too much to bear, then head over to Skydio................oh wait, nevermind.

 

[Zbip57]

The ideal situation would be zero tariffs on all sides, e.g.: free trade.

Everyone would prosper from that. Whoever provides a product for the least expensive price naturally attracts the most business. If your country doesn't have the necessary climate to grow bananas or coffee beans, you have to buy those things from another country. In exchange your country produces something of value that you can sell to the banana/coffee producing countries.

Which is why we had the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), but which was renogiated and renamed the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), entering into force on July 1, 2020, but which "somebody" [somebody who actually took credit for creating the USMCA best deal ever] now says is the stupidest deal anyone ever signed.

If your country buys more products from foreign countries than it sells to those countries, then you have a "trade deficit". More money flows out of your country than into it.

So, to discourage people from buying those foreign products, you slap a huge tariff on those things. Your consumers then can no longer afford to buy those products, finding them too expensive, and stop buying them. That hurts the foreign producers, but it also means you need to find a way to live without bananas or coffee, or find a way to grow them domestically.

Meanwhile, Elon Musk will develop a way to grow coffee and bananas on Mars, as growing them there and importing them from that distance will surely be cheaper than simply continuing to buy those products from whichever closest neighbouring country previously shipped them to you the cheapest.

"Some people" will tell you that tariffs make your country rich so you will no longer need to pay income tax. But that only works if your income taxes are replaced by your importer continuing to pay those new tariff taxes to your government. But the whole idea of tariffs is to discourage imports coming from other countries, replacing them with homegrown alternatives. If those tariffed products stop coming into your country, your government will run out of collecting that tax revenue, no?

Take aluminum for instance. Canada produces and sells a LOT of that to the USA. So, you impose huge tariff taxes on that. Canada doesn't pay that tax. Your importer pays that tax to your government, and passes that increased price on to YOU the consumer. Now it costs YOU way more to buy that Cdn aluminum.

Solution? The US needs to start producing more of its own aluminum. But the mining is the easiest part. The smelting process is ENORMOUSLY expensive, requiring HUGE energy input which America currently lacks. The US hasn't got enough electricity as it is, already importing electricity from Canada.

Solution? Put tariffs on Cdn electricity too, so it costs your importers and consumers more, thereby encouraging greater domestic production of electricity within the USA. But you already don't have enough energy sources to produce that extra electricity?

Solution? "Drill, baby, drill." Bring all those mothballed polution spewing coal-fired power plants back to life. Who cares about the environment?

Solution? Fire everyone at your Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)....

Meanwhile, Canada has abundant resources of aluminum ore and more than enough hydro-electric power to refine that aluminum, with enough hydro-electric surplus still available to sell it at discounted price to America. That is why it is so much more affordable to buy cheaply produced aluminum from Canada, even including the cost of transporting it to our closest neighbour.

The ONLY time tariffs make any sense is when used to protect an existing domestic industry. Take steel. The US is good at producing steel. China also produces steel and pays its workers less, resulting in cheaper steel prices. If your automakers decide it makes more sense to by cheaper steel from China, your steel industry suffers and starts closing down. Jobs are lost, the economy suffers. So, you slap a large tariff on Chinese steel.

Now it costs more to import steel from China than it does to buy domestic American steel. Jobs are protected, everyone's happy. However, your cars cost more than they would if they were built using steel supplied cheaply from China. Are you actually better off this way?

Tariffs hurt everyone and are a ridiculously stupid policy!

 

[hank970]

Does the imposition of higher tariffs on goods from China mean that red baseball hats with garish logos, cheap guitars, and $59 Bibles are going to cost more, or has there been a special carve-out to protect those precious commodities?

 

[RangerEd]

wow, I’m lost for words

It looks like your 34% tariff is what we're going to be charging China. According to the article posted by CNBC China is charging our products 67%. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/02/trump-reciprocal-tariffs-countries-chart-imports-united-states.html

 

[Dronecation]

Everyone would prosper from that. Whoever provides a product for the least expensive price naturally attracts the most business. If your country doesn't have the necessary climate to grow bananas or coffee beans, you have to buy those things from another country. In exchange your country produces something of value that you can sell to the banana/coffee producing countries.

Which is why we had the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), but which was renogiated and renamed the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), entering into force on July 1, 2020, but which "somebody" [somebody who actually took credit for creating the USMCA best deal ever] now says is the stupidest deal anyone ever signed.

If your country buys more products from foreign countries than it sells to those countries, then you have a "trade deficit". More money flows out of your country than into it.

So, to discourage people from buying those foreign products, you slap a huge tariff on those things. Your consumers then can no longer afford to buy those products, finding them too expensive, and stop buying them. That hurts the foreign producers, but it also means you need to find a way to live without bananas or coffee, or find a way to grow them domestically.

Meanwhile, Elon Musk will develop a way to grow coffee and bananas on Mars, as growing them there and importing them from that distance will surely be cheaper than simply continuing to buy those products from whichever closest neighbouring country previously shipped them to you the cheapest.

"Some people" will tell you that tariffs make your country rich so you will no longer need to pay income tax. But that only works if your income taxes are replaced by your importer continuing to pay those new tariff taxes to your government. But the whole idea of tariffs is to discourage imports coming from other countries, replacing them with homegrown alternatives. If those tariffed products stop coming into your country, your government will run out of collecting that tax revenue, no?

Take aluminum for instance. Canada produces and sells a LOT of that to the USA. So, you impose huge tariff taxes on that. Canada doesn't pay that tax. Your importer pays that tax to your government, and passes that increased price on to YOU the consumer. Now it costs YOU way more to buy that Cdn aluminum.

Solution? The US needs to start producing more of its own aluminum. But the mining is the easiest part. The smelting process is ENORMOUSLY expensive, requiring HUGE energy input which America currently lacks. The US hasn't got enough electricity as it is, already importing electricity from Canada.

Solution? Put tariffs on Cdn electricity too, so it costs your importers and consumers more, thereby encouraging greater domestic production of electricity within the USA. But you already don't have enough energy sources to produce that extra electricity?

Solution? "Drill, baby, drill." Bring all those mothballed polution spewing coal-fired power plants back to life. Who cares about the environment?

Solution? Fire everyone at your Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)....

Meanwhile, Canada has abundant resources of aluminum ore and more than enough hydro-electric power to refine that aluminum, with enough hydro-electric surplus still available to sell it at discounted price to America. That is why it is so much more affordable to buy cheaply produced aluminum from Canada, even including the cost of transporting it to our closest neighbour.

The ONLY time tariffs make any sense is when used to protect an existing domestic industry. Take steel. The US is good at producing steel. China also produces steel and pays its workers less, resulting in cheaper steel prices. If your automakers decide it makes more sense to by cheaper steel from China, your steel industry suffers and starts closing down. Jobs are lost, the economy suffers. So, you slap a large tariff on Chinese steel.

Now it costs more to import steel from China than it does to buy domestic American steel. Jobs are protected, everyone's happy. However, your cars cost more than they would if they were built using steel supplied cheaply from China. Are you actually better off this way?

Tariffs hurt everyone and are a ridiculously stupid policy!

Total hogwash. Canadian politicians [in bed with the lamestream media] are trying to pass off their own delinquency in dealing with the border and paying their 2% GDP defense spending by blaming Trump and calling it a 'war'...
Stop being brainwashed by Gov't funded media. LMAO!

 

[spsphotos]

It looks like your 34% tariff is what we're going to be charging China. According to the article posted by CNBC China is charging our products 67%. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/02/trump-reciprocal-tariffs-countries-chart-imports-united-states.html

And so what? They have to pay those tariffs, not us. WE HAVE TO PAY TRUMPS TARIFFS! How does CHINA having to pay tariffs to their OWN government impact us? WE HAVE TO PAY TRUMPS TAX...I MEAN TARIFFS. That's the part that most people seem to be confused about. The Trump-Excusers all seem to forget just how much we import from other countries that affect our day to day lives.

 

[Zbip57]

Total hogwash. [...] Stop being brainwashed by Gov't funded media. LMAO!

I'm genuinely curious. Explain how you see things differently. Which parts are "hogwash"? I'm always willing to learn, and I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if you can back up your opinions with verifiable facts to convince me I'm wrong.

 

[MS Coast]

And it is exactly 1/2 of the tariffs they put on us.

Not so. You need to look at sources other than a chart displayed by Trump at a press conference. He's not the most reliable source of economic data. The actual numbers are another matter entirely.

Try this reference from the US Department of Commerce.

Japan - Import Tariffs

Includes information on average tariff rates and types that U.S. firms should be aware of when exporting to the market.

www.trade.gov

 

[Jim622]

Not so. You need to look at sources other than a chart displayed by Trump at a press conference. He's not the most reliable source of economic data. The actual numbers are another matter entirely.

Try this reference from the US Department of Commerce.

Japan - Import Tariffs

Includes information on average tariff rates and types that U.S. firms should be aware of when exporting to the market.

www.trade.gov

I was referring to China. But now let's talk about Canada as I have personally dealt with them since the 80's

Canadian tariffs of 25% on goods from the United States: How they apply at the border

What you need to know about the tariffs on certain US-made goods and the border.

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca

 

[FliegenKerl]

I'll welcome all the tariffs President Trump imposes. Enough of getting taken advantage of as a country. We can make our own goods.

 

[AMann]

We can make our own goods.

We really can’t. Just like everyone else, we are dependent on the raw materials, and many advanced ones, that some countries have and make that we don’t. Like it or not, ours is just a part of a global economy and becoming independent of it won’t happen, if at all, in our lifetime.