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how to avoid forced landing because of low battery

by the way there are some other parameters its the :

raw_bat_level1|g_config.voltage.level_1_protect

raw_bat_level2|g_config.voltage.level_2_protect

emergency_voltage



its very helpful if they are explained too values of them mean what?
As already stated above, if you research old threads on these forums on parameter mods for earlier DJI aircraft, you'll find your answers, assuming that the appropriate parameters still work as before. A lot of them can still be changed but are automatically reset to the original values upon boot up.

Look them up. You are not the first and won't be the last to want to turn off autolanding and forced landing.

Here is just one of many such threads:

 
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It's not saving the battery, it's saving the battery and aircraft, cause when the battery is empty for real it shuts off and the aircraft drops like a rock.
There is no reason you should ever still be in the air to even reach the forced
DJI keeps trying to make flying these drones fool proof, but we keep inventing better(?) fools.

It ain't rocket science. Watch the *&$%#^ battery level!
That’s the problem, just can’t regulate the “fool” factor out of anything.
 
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People should just pay attention to the battery level, and everything like wind, MSL, and temperature that affect the battery performance. It's all part of flying responsibly.
 
Please land the drone before the battery level hits zero. We don't need an excuse for more legislation because some innocent bystander took a drone hit to the head from it dropping like a rock out of the sky.
This👆exactly! The things more rules and regulations are made of. Case in point the PhD educated drone operator who flew 1 1/2 miles away, way out of visual range, toward the recent California fire debacle, and occupied the same airspace with a fire fighting aircraft. Still waiting to see what new punishment regulation is dumped on all of us. Just goes to prove, stupidity can’t be regulated, no matter how many rules the rule makers come up with. Why make it easier to accomplish a new level of stupidity?

Situational awareness and personal responsibility is the real answer.
 
What's being missed by the OP is the risk profile shifts when the battery gets close to depleted. Now, the chance the drone loses power and falls from the sky, potentially causing property damage or bodily harm, goes way up.

When the batteries get to the point of the system forcing you to land you should land, not see if you can get back before the drone dies. That feature is to keep others safe from your drone, and hopefully keep it undamaged as well.

Disabling the FL feature also means you're going to run it down faster, as you will be able to ascend, and fly full throttle in Sport, which is exactly what you will do under these circumstances.

Disabling FL and then playing chicken with the last bit of charge is reckless, no other way to describe it. If you get to Forced Landing then land and go get your drone. If it's inaccessible or over water, do not get yourself in that situation.
 
My Air 3 returns home automatically and unerringly when the battery is depleted to a certain extent and the craft has calculated how much juice it will take to return safely with a sufficient reserve. Frankly, I get a kick out of watching the process unfold. I suppose I could override that function and keep flying until a forced landing was necessitated, but why would I want to do that and increase the risk of the craft coming down over water, on a highway or busy parking lot, on someone's rooftop, on a steep, rocky slope, in the branches of a tall tree, or some other undesirable location? A forced landing isn't necessarily a safe landing.
 
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am not reckless and irresponsible to fly to that level , i plan my flights to always return with 30% bat, but in some cases conditions like wind etc may let u reach the critical level of 10% and the drone goes to force land in water , high way....
This is a possible factor, maybe in a last-ditch situation. But like meta4 said, Those are things to be aware of, and you have to take into account how weather will affect your flight time and speed of flight. In windy conditions or other hazardous weather, take extra precautions. Don't start returning home at 30%, start back at 45% and avoid critical levels altogether. I have made the stupid mistake of underestimating wind with my air 2. I thought I had enough battery to make it home, and in normal circumstances I would have had enough, but I didn't with the wind. Had to make an emergency landing in someone's backyard, and walk a half-mile to retrieve it.
 
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guys first am not recommending any one to reach the critical battery level, i my self plan my flight to 30% bat where the drone should be back in my hands , thats my safety factor... but we are in a dynamic situation with all factors that may affect flight and its purpose !!! some times u need that last minute or so its the exception it would be nice if there is a way to disable the forced landing for this situation exclusively.... i hope i made it clear!!!
 
i recall that in parameters of air 3 i saw a parameter :
g_config.voltage2.user_set_smart _bat
with default value =2 but can be set to zero or 1 what does this parameter stand for and what does those values stand for , if some one may help please
i modified the value to zero and test flied the air 3 still force land at 15% bat , so this parameter is not for the critical low battery forced landing, am only making a guess that it maybe to the smart rth once the drone calculates the battery level and drone distance and time required to fly back, i hope some one explains those parameters , i will try to do my homework about them in details once i have time
 
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guys first am not recommending any one to reach the critical battery level, i my self plan my flight to 30% bat where the drone should be back in my hands , thats my safety factor...

What you seem unwilling to accept is the risk of the drone falling out of the sky and causing catastrophe goes way up if you keep flying. It is not a manageable risk.

Lipo serial battery assemblies are not like gas tanks. "10%" is not a reliable metric of either the SoC, or the ability of the pack to deliver all the energy in the pack. When you get close to depleted, it gets very hard to determine actual charge remaining using voltage with a varying load.

A marginal cell won't cause problems at 2/3 depletion. At 90% depletion it could reverse under load, causing a sudden voltage drop and the drone shutting down.

You're buzzing around in Normal, or worse hovering. You hit 10%. You flip it to S and floor it, sudden drop in voltage due to marginal cell so close to depletion, drone drops from the sky on a car and causes an injury accident. All the while you read it still had 8%.

You are making simplistic, uninformed assumptions about how the components in the system function. DJI didn't set the various limits where they did to keep you from flying... those limits are there to maintain a safety margin.
 
i hope some one shares how to if possible prevent forced landing due to critical low battery on the air3
If you were flying a real plane, you would be crazy be planning to land with only a cupful of fuel left in the tanks.
You would want to always have a comfortable reserve to be able to deal with unexpected issues.
Flying your drone just as you would a real plane is always a good strategy.
 
What you seem unwilling to accept is the risk of the drone falling out of the sky and causing catastrophe goes way up if you keep flying. It is not a manageable risk.

Lipo serial battery assemblies are not like gas tanks. "10%" is not a reliable metric of either the SoC, or the ability of the pack to deliver all the energy in the pack. When you get close to depleted, it gets very hard to determine actual charge remaining using voltage with a varying load.

A marginal cell won't cause problems at 2/3 depletion. At 90% depletion it could reverse under load, causing a sudden voltage drop and the drone shutting down.

You're buzzing around in Normal, or worse hovering. You hit 10%. You flip it to S and floor it, sudden drop in voltage due to marginal cell so close to depletion, drone drops from the sky on a car and causes an injury accident. All the while you read it still had 8%.

You are making simplistic, uninformed assumptions about how the components in the system function. DJI didn't set the various limits where they did to keep you from flying... those limits are there to maintain a safety margin.
Just for grins, I recently rode my Yamaha CrossCore RC ebike until the readout on the control unit showed an estimated remaining range of 8 miles at the lowest level of assist. At the highest level of assist, the estimated range is far less. There's a steep hill in last quarter-mile or so of my return home. When I reached the foot of the hill, the battery simply didn't have enough juice remaining to provide the additional boost I might expect at a higher charge level. As a consequence, I was obliged to pedal a 52-pound bike up that steep hill. Lesson learned, even though I kind of knew what the outcome would be.

The Yamaha is a great bike. In normal riding at the lowest level of assist, I can expect about 100 miles of range on the most popular trails in my area. And, unlike a drone, I don't have to worry about the bike falling out of the sky and crushing someone or something if I push the envelope.
 
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What you seem unwilling to accept is the risk of the drone falling out of the sky and causing catastrophe goes way up if you keep flying. It is not a manageable risk.

Lipo serial battery assemblies are not like gas tanks. "10%" is not a reliable metric of either the SoC, or the ability of the pack to deliver all the energy in the pack. When you get close to depleted, it gets very hard to determine actual charge remaining using voltage with a varying load.

A marginal cell won't cause problems at 2/3 depletion. At 90% depletion it could reverse under load, causing a sudden voltage drop and the drone shutting down.

You're buzzing around in Normal, or worse hovering. You hit 10%. You flip it to S and floor it, sudden drop in voltage due to marginal cell so close to depletion, drone drops from the sky on a car and causes an injury accident. All the while you read it still had 8%.

You are making simplistic, uninformed assumptions about how the components in the system function. DJI didn't set the various limits where they did to keep you from flying... those limits are there to maintain a safety margin.
Your assumption that one would stupidly use Sport mode in this situation is unfair and unrealistic. You are the one now who is making simplistic and uninformed assumptions about the OP. DJI batteries also perform very predictably down to their displayed 0% remaining battery. You are also naively assuming that DJI's Remaining Battery Percentage is designed to be accurate, where achieving 0% means it falls out of the sky. Please reread Post #11 above. 0% is not zero. It now leaves a minimum of two full minutes of flight time. Anyone can check the voltage levels on Air Data for flights that reach 0% remaining. Voltage levels are still above 3.5V per cell. Even DJI uses 0% remaining for all their advertised flight times on all aircraft, and are never crash landing! Read the asterisks below the advertised flight times.

I have hundreds of hours of flying DJI aircraft below 10% and even down to 0% in extremes on P4P and Mavic 2 aircraft, and have never had any battery problems whatsoever by staying within that range. The batteries are still remain fully balanced and still deliver 95% of the flight times of a brand new battery with over 100 charge cycles per battery. Obviously, the 50% increased flight times of Mavic 3 series and Air 3 series aircraft now preclude the need for such measures to achieve longer flight times, unless one only has time for one battery before losing the light and wants to squeeze in a few more 360° panos before dark. It is also easier to land at under 10% because OA is automatically turned off, so the aircraft willingly descends into your outstretched hand.

Let's keep it real.
 
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i modified the value to zero and test flied the air 3 still force land at 15% bat , so this parameter is not for the critical low battery forced landing, am only making a guess that it maybe to the smart rth once the drone calculates the battery level and drone distance and time required to fly back, i hope some one explains those parameters , i will try to do my homework about them in details once i have time
There are a combination of three or four parameters that need to be changed, as spelled out in the thread I linked and the others I suggested you search. The Smart Battery parameter is the one that kicks in before forced landing that can be easily overriden. The others you referenced are more relevant. Look at the thread. The OP explains exactly how to do what you want. Here, in this thread, you just are wasting your time. I have already given you all the information you requested. You just have to read it.

raw_bat_level1|g_config.voltage.level_1_protect

raw_bat_level2|g_config.voltage.level_2_protect

emergency_voltage
 
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There are a combination of three or four parameters that need to be changed, as spelled out in the thread I linked and the others I suggested you search. The Smart Battery parameter is the one that kicks in before forced landing that can be easily overriden. The others you referenced are more relevant. Look at the thread. The OP explains exactly how to do what you want. Here, in this thread, you just are wasting your time. I have already given you all the information you requested. You just have to read it.

raw_bat_level1|g_config.voltage.level_1_protect

raw_bat_level2|g_config.voltage.level_2_protect

emergency_voltage
to sum up this discussion.. first
raw_bat_level1|g_config.voltage.level_1_protect

raw_bat_level2|g_config.voltage.level_2_protect
those 2 parameters can be edited to 10% thats the point critical landing kicks in this is for the air3
i will look more into emergency_voltage

am not complicating the world but we always discuss safety... thats the most biased term ever!!!
basically to be sure we are out of risk!!! we need a full understanding of things we operate... for one reason or another there should be a dji bible out there for parameters and drones specific systems operation... to fail safe.. (it will be one but edited for every specific drone type) for several levels of users from hobbyist to pro that can refer to questions we may need an answer to, its not practical to have a phd in dji but it is nice and safe to have at least some bit more understanding of operation beside using the remote controller
 
IMO, the forced landing feature is a necessary safety feature and only "annoying" to operators who fail to plan their flight safely. ANY and ALL conditions that will cause this safety feature to activate CAN and WILL be avoided by a properly trained and prepared pilot. I've only ever tested it under close range, controlled conditions, while testing a battery.
 
The fact that anything is forced is Negative , for example if you drone is coming down between a group of people and a lake I should have the ability to make the decision to save the people and dump my drone in the lake, Forced landing is just a stupid idea of DJI that we have to deal with . Its not about a properly trained pilot. When Helicopters have a forced landing and there happy about it , let me know ., lolll

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Forced landing is just a stupid idea of DJI that we have to deal with . Its not about a properly trained pilot. When Helicopters have a forced landing and there happy about it , let me know ., lolll
Proper training in all full-scale aircraft includes forced landing scenarios. It also includes training in how to prevent such scenarios. Anyone who takes to the skies thinking they never need to deal with forced landings is a fool looking to become a statistic.
 
Proper training in all full-scale aircraft includes forced landing scenarios. It also includes training in how to prevent such scenarios. Anyone who takes to the skies thinking they never need to deal with forced landings is a fool looking to become a statistic.
Which should include the PIC being able to disable or modify the manufacturer's default specifications for forced landing, to ones more appropriate to their own needs. Knowing how to still control the aircraft and override a forced landing, once it is initiated, is also critical.
 
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