Detain and question - yes. Arrest - no.I don’t see how US vs Causby is relevant in this situation. The ownership of the airspace above his property is not in question here. I fail to see how materially different this would be if he was flying outside his property line. The police didn’t own the airspace above them that is not in question either.
The question here is if flying a drone at 4am in the vicinity of police officers investigating a crime while wearing a ballistic vest with an AR-15 strapped to your shoulders to reasonable suspicion for said police officers to arrest you. The answer is undoubtedly yes.
Yes ***detain*** thank you!Detain and question - yes. Arrest - no.
You are right "suspicion" is not a crime; however if the police are investigating a crime scene and come across an obvious moron like this then probable cause can be assumed. If I'm a police officer (especially investigating a domestic dispute) my safety and the safety of others is first and foremost. The drone being flown near a crime scene by and inidividual dressed like he's going to war is definitely probable cause; he's lucky they just didn't shoot him assuming he was a perp or would be a perp. In so many ways this is absurdity at it's worse. He represents the drone community, gun owner community and home owner and in one quick stupid action does a bang up job of making us all look like idiots.I disagree. If your on your own property , I don't care what time it is if your not breaking any laws they have no right at all to arrest you.Remember Suspicious is not a crime. and unless you have committed a crime theres no grounds for arrest period!!
Interaction was solely based on a need to evaluate and determine if in fact a threat existed and on the basis of officer and community safety. Absent a long gun and ballistic armor the contact would likely have been much different. Well trained PD here.You are right "suspicion" is not a crime; however if the police are investigating a crime scene and come across an obvious moron like this then probable cause can be assumed. If I'm a police officer (especially investigating a domestic dispute) my safety and the safety of others is first and foremost. The drone being flown near a crime scene by and inidividual dressed like he's going to war is definitely probable cause; he's lucky they just didn't shoot him assuming he was a perp or would be a perp. In so many ways this is absurdity at it's worse. He represents the drone community, gun owner community and home owner and in one quick stupid action does a bang up job of making us all look like idiots.
It doesn’t matter if you’re on your own property or not. Not only can they arrest you they can take you downtown and put you in jail for up to 72 hours without even charging you.I disagree. If your on your own property , I don't care what time it is if your not breaking any laws they have no right at all to arrest you.Remember Suspicious is not a crime. and unless you have committed a crime theres no grounds for arrest period!!
I disagree. If your on your own property , I don't care what time it is if your not breaking any laws they have no right at all to arrest you.Remember Suspicious is not a crime. and unless you have committed a crime theres no grounds for arrest period!!
you have no clue no arrest can be made unless you committed a crime. OK sure they can do all that but then get sued for a lot of money . see it happen all the time. I can see a bunch of brainwash people believing the Gov can do what ever they want and get away with it. If you don't stand up for your right they will be taken. Its so sad to see so many people just give in to tyranny and bullies with a badge. I'm gonna fly my drone when ever and where ever I want to as long as it a a legal place to fly. I don't care if the cops are across the street cause a guy is beating his wife. As long as I'm not doing anything illegal theres not much they can do legally.It doesn’t matter if you’re on your own property or not. Not only can they arrest you they can take you downtown and put you in jail for up to 72 hours without even charging you.
I have no idea what you’re thinking but that’s not how it works.
In this case they had every right to detain him for as long as they wanted.
The whole video is a bunch of BS.
Some years ago I was doing a training course for investigators. The course was run by the police a the state police academy. One of the old sergeant/lecturers told us one day that he guaranteed that if he followed any of us for 15 minutes he could find some crime we had committed. If they want to they can get you.you have no clue no arrest can be made unless you committed a crime. OK sure they can do all that but then get sued for a lot of money . see it happen all the time. I can see a bunch of brainwash people believing the Gov can do what ever they want and get away with it. If you don't stand up for your right they will be taken. Its so sad to see so many people just give in to tyranny and bullies with a badge. I'm gonna fly my drone when ever and where ever I want to as long as it a a legal place to fly. I don't care if the cops are across the street cause a guy is beating his wife. As long as I'm not doing anything illegal theres not much they can do legally.
You are 100% correct.Some years ago I was doing a training course for investigators. The course was run by the police a the state police academy. One of the old sergeant/lecturers told us one day that he guaranteed that if he followed any of us for 15 minutes he could find some crime we had committed. If they want to they can get you.