FLDave
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But you did not visually see the drone at the time, correct? So you could not say you definitive say that there were no waves anywhere around the drone based on your own view?
Lost my other drone, my Mini 3 Pro
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You could not see the drone. You say you were looking only at the controller screen with the camera pointed downward. It's impossible under those circumstances to visually tell whether the drone is descending or the wave is rising.
You may be right about the drone being hit only by spray and knocked down or shorted out. The end result is the same as being hit by the wave.
The log file shows no failure on the part of the drone. Operator error.
Can you explain your reasoning why VLOS is not practical? It seems with your outcome, flying 1100 yards in close proximity to a hazard was not very practical. If your mission was to film surfers why didn't you go to the beach?
Not the first time he's had this sort of problem.
"I was flying a series of out of signal range waypoint missions over train track and terminals under construction near my house."
Crash.
"... the drone was way off course, and ended up hitting some construction equipment, even though obstacle avoidance should of been on. So the crash was not my fault.
I saw it on my screen. You can see the screen recording for yourself. I will have a better video tomorrow.
The only operator error could of been that I was pushing down on the stick. Was I doing that?
I was at the beach but not for videoing surfers. For videoing the waves. You consider 10 feet close proximity?
At that altitude with the camera pointed down at the water, all you can see is water. You can't tell whether the drone is descending or the water is rising up. Looking at the controller screen, you could only see that the surface of the water was getting closer.
That's not the only possible operator error. One could fly the drone too low over the surf and let a wave hit it. That's seem to be the case in both of your drone losses that week.
Yes I do, when you are 3325 ft away and no vlos. It seems you are not learning from experiance.
You should have taken you own advise. Your post from another drone you crashed.
"But maybe in the future I will ride over there so I can stay connected and that will be better. It's not too far from my house. About 6 minutes. I definitely don't want to hit anyone or crash my drone again. So I can see your point."
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FLDave
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I know I could see a recording. I just wanted to know what you visually saw the drone do the environment around the drone, that rear, front, up, and down, with an estimate of height above surface as you could see it with your unaided eyes.
That's not what the barometric height data shows.
I explained back in post #27 ...
although the barometric height continues to show around numbers around 30 ft, the VPS height shows changing height above the water from 20 ft to 10 ft, 14 ft, 19 ft ... then 17, 14, 9, 8, 7, 5 .... kerplunk.
Your drone was maintaining height, but the water was coming up from below it.
You were flying too close to the water's surface to be safe from the wave action.
You were too far away to see how close your drone was to the water/waves.
The incident was caused by careless flying in the wave danger zone.
While 10 feet might be ok over flat calm water, it's definitely not ok when over big surf.
You were blissfully unaware when you were flying and still are when the cause of your most recent incidents are pointed out.
Flying close to obstacles is risky.
Flying close to an obstacle that rises and falls is very risky.
You cannot judge the drone's height above the water by relying on a wideangle lens that makes things appear further away than they actually are.
Flying close to waves when you are too far away to see how close the drone is to the waves is asking for trouble.
Not learning from multiple drone losses dooms your drones to more losses.
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Yes plentiful supply and he said he has the money to experiment so drones are almost disposable at that point. Stamp collecting could be fun I suppose but not as much as air surfing the sea by drone!
I crashed a Mavic Pro One in the sea trying to fly fast and level at 6 to 10 feet several years ago. I was overconfident in my ability to keep precise height above water. I did not know whether to trust the telemetry or my own eyes that told me drone was dipping as it moved away from me. So I cannot blame wave height or spray. Never tried it that low over water again at least not in sport mode with drone flying away.
Ok. So here's the best copy of the screen capture I can post. I had to buy the program to save the file. $6. Hopefully, some of you guys can chip in, so I don't have to eat the whole six dollars!
I made it longer that it had to be. The crash starts at about 2:20. So watching it, I notice the last waves are very close to the horizon, if not above it. But it still isn't hit by a wave, only spray. Then it goes down by itself.
I made it longer that it had to be. The crash starts at about 2:20. So watching it, I notice the last waves are very close to the horizon, if not above it. But it still isn't hit by a wave, only spray. Then it goes down by itself.
Of course, there was no way of getting closer to the surf zone in Siargao because the water is very shallow for thousands of feet before the waves break.
I wasn't looking at it with my unaided eyes. I don't look at my drone when I'm flying, except takeoff and landing. The mini could not have been seen from that distance anyway.
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