Ha. I can’t have caffeine anymore, but I like coffee so much. I have expensive beans shipped to me and I’m a retired teacher not some rich guy. Stupidest thing ever to pay money for flavored water.
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Not nearly as stupid as paying money for slender white things that you burn up and get lung cancer from.
That's exactly the issue. Tariffs are borne by the importer aka import duty as its called in other countries. The seller, in some cases, particularly vehicles, has an option to reduce his export price to soften the blow of tariffs paid by the importer and ultimately the consumer. The tariffs/import duties paid by the importer in the USA goes to the FEDS. At the end of the day one needs to look at the final price of the imported item; i.e export cost/import cost (price charged by exporting country/landed cost here in the USA); to that add tariff for the item-category as declared by the US Government, paid by the importer in USA to the FEDS, plus local taxes if any.
CHINA/JAPAN/Any country is not paying tariff on the items they export to USA, the USA importer is hence making the item more expensive to the end consumer, assuming the exporters price plus tariff paid by the importer is more than what it previously was.
Other countries may have or have also increased or set a tariff (aka import duties) on good they import from the USA hence making the same item more expensive to the consumers in the respective countries who are charging the same.
I'm not condoning any tariffs but the argument raised by DT and reason for tariffs on imports from countries is based on apparent trade imbalances.
Besides: Say we (USA) were importing wines from Europe at 0% tariff. USA exporters of wines to Europe have European tariiff applied in their country on wines imported from the USA to protect their own wine industry. Similar tariffs are levied by dozens of countries on goods imported from the USA. This is what got DT worked up; at the end of the day it is the end customer/consumer whos paying the price of tariff wars. How does tariff added here on say goods from China affect China? Say there was zero tariff on furniture imported into the USA from China, now has 25% (or whatever) tariff added here, hence increasing cost of the same furniture by 25% plus add local taxes etc. The result is local buyers here, stop buying furniture imported from China, importers reduce or cut their orders; Chinese workers in Chinese factories are laid off due to lack of exports.
The above are simply examples; most of us may be aware however a few are not.
I think you can get away with lowering the value on something used but as you know, even used cars have sales tax....over and over and over no matter how many times [re]sold and every time something passes thru customs, the tariff is assigned and the clock starts over again.
I suspect the drones being sold by certain US based vendors as "previously activated," open box, but never flown units, is to create proof that it is "used," rather than new, and then it's between the buyer and seller what a used one is worth, rather than looking up MSRP on the manufacturer’s website. The seller could even then claim it was a used defective unit, worth next to nothing, minimizing tariffs based upon a percentage of the value.
I just ordered a Tariff Free eBay M4P Creator deal for about $3960 after taxes. Am I nuts? please help me God! LOL And I never cancelled the preorder deal from B&H tax free deal at $4650. Should I cancel? thanks as I trust your advice very much so.
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I don’t even know you and what do you mean response like this? I have a hard enough time working out my risk and reward decisions which is what this is. Maybe someone will help and I hope you come to a decision you are comfortable and happy with.
Some people are just that way. There's no logical reason why. They just are.
If it arrives, as promised, without any tariffs, you win.
I suspect the Korean eBay sellers still have current workarounds that are now reducing the total tariffs to $300, instead of free. So, as long as the package isn't singled out for secondary screening and opening, it will still sail through unopened.
Misclassifying the Harmonized System (HS) Code, and mislabeling the contents to match, and changing the country of origin, while also declaring a value that results in $300 in tariffs, would be one way of limiting the tariffs to a mere $300.
However, if the package is physically opened by U.S. Customs, the contents won't match the Customs Declaration, and it will likely be seized or subject to additional correct tariffs. If you are unwilling to pay the additional tariffs that may be assessed, whether eBay will still allow a refund under their Money Back Guarantee, based upon the seller’s representation of 100% responsibility for any tariffs, remains to be seen.
Can you share a link to the eBay seller from which you purchased, who made it clear they would be100% responsible for any tariffs?
As to your B&H pre-order, unless it was a Creator Combo, it was likely already fulfilled yesterday! They finally got some in! All gone now.
If your international order goes south, I'd place a risk free Creator Combo pre-order with Adorama. They won't charge your CC until they actually ship your order, and you can cancel up until they ship without penalty.
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Once I get the shipment I will fill you in with the details but for sure I will not pay any tariffs as the seller made this clear in the tittle plus the description. Buyers have protection if the item is not as described. I used Amex and PayPal also if eBay doesn't help out.
We believe you but you gotta realize something. Most everyone isn't aware of exactly how it all supposed to work every step of the way and there are instances where people have been caught up into a situation they have little or no control over. Those horror stories are the exceptions but they have happened. For example, a few times I have heard about where FedEx delivers the package on a Tuesday and all is fine. Suddenly next Monday, you receive a message from FedEx that says FedEx has already paid the tariff on the package you received last week, you owe them $450, here is your bill. If you don't pay it, we send it to collections.
What exactly can you do about that except dispute it and contest it and probably don't pay it. Amex and Paypal and eBay and the seller can't exactly help in this situation. It's really shady but this is what happens when a poorly implemented situation is put into place overnight. Personally I have to see those particular situations come under control before I'm ready to get back into the game.
eBay archives the webpage when you purchase, so you can reference it later, if needed, to protect the buyer from seller’s changes that take place after you buy.
However, eBay has now also specifically disclaimed their Money Back Guarantee from being able to be used if tariffs are the reason you return or refuse a package. Whether a seller's representation that there will be no tariffs can now supercede that remains to be seen.
I don't know how that works when they have multiple items on their page. I bought one of the "last two" with 68 sold. They've since added more to their available so I think it's the same page edited.
I don't know if Ebay archives the actual page I purchased from in these instances.
I can only speak from my own recent experiences. When I checked on my eBay drone order statuses, and clicked on the link to the seller's ad, it stated, "the seller has changed the listing from when you bought. If you would you like to see the page as it appeared when you bought, click here." Whether that covers changes in inventory counts as well, or only the text descriptions and price, I can’t be sure.
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