mobilehomer
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Your location says Flagstaff, AZ. That would infer FAA is the controlling authority. It would help tremendously if you specified WHICH Burning Man event you are referencing!
The difference between a public event at a public venue vs a private event. The same laws that allow concerts, restaurants, etc to post signs prohibiting videos and photography.P.S. You keep speaking of personal privacy but persons in public do not have those same personal privacy rights if you don't wish to be filmed in public I would suggest staying home.
This is an excellent example where stern measures are appropriate.Weird perceptions here. My Medivac was coming in at dusk for a patient, as I said unfortunately passed. Had the Helicopter hit one of the drones operating illegally there, it would have killed the crew. Our pad is only .5 kilometers from the event. So let us take the Billionaire and just the one real twit drone guy. Billionaire was trying to crash the event. The BM philosophy is nobody is any better than others. Don't go for the animal farm thing with others being more equal than others. No ticket, jump the gate. Hmm what is a fellow to do. He tried plenty of intimidation on us. We use the Ranger philosophy, swarm. However we stood firm, as did the attending Rangers and the Box office perimeter folks. It was my call ultimately as it was an airspace issue, with the ticket issue from box office weighing in.
Yes, please. I couldn't find it, and would like to see what it says.How about for us in the US, post a copy or link to the TFR?
I know who this sounds like. Makes expensive EV’s and likes Mars.I actually threw out a not-to-be-named billionaire out for trying to enter illegally by landing his private helicopter on our Medivac Pad this event as well.
The OP makes a clear distinction in one of the "you will comply" posts regarding "illegal" drones and the "official" drone. If 'safety and security' were indeed the motivation driving the stamp-down on any punter who has a mini 3 in their hippy-bag, how does the "official" drone operator feel about contravening one of the two foundation legal restrictions governing all drone flights? You know.... The one about NEVER flying over crowds of uninvolved individuals. The only thing this sounds like is a policy to have a commercial monopoly on 4K footage.I know who this sounds like. Makes expensive EV’s and likes Mars.
The only thing this sounds like is a policy to have a commercial monopoly on 4K footage.
When I looked up to see what Burning Man was I was shocked to find out that it was supposed to represent anti corporatism, anti establishment Ian, and freedom of expression. This thread makes it sound like just the opposite of what it started out as. The bigger it gets the more it seems to become what it is supposed to oppose.Agreed. This whole thread reads like agenda and feelings enforcement rather than actual law enforcement.
Ha! Sounds right.When I looked up to see what Burning Man was I was shocked to find out that it was supposed to represent anti corporatism, anti establishment Ian, and freedom of expression. This thread makes it sound like just the opposite of what it started out as. The bigger it gets the more it seems to become what it is supposed to oppose.
Just returned from AfrikaBurn. I am one of the Airspace Managers, for fixed wing, rotary wing and reluctantly function as the drone police. Just to let folks know, if they plan to attend any of the worldwide or US based Burning Man events there are specific rules, which prohibit any but our one or two permitted, possessing waivers, insurance and proper local licensing from FAA/CAA to film at the events. This year we started very aggressive policing of illegal drone flights. We captured 15 drones this year at AfrikaBurn alone, ranging from a Mavic 3 Pro to an assortment of 2's and minis. We do eventually give them back to the owners, but make it a colossal pain in the a$$ to teach them a lesson. A few argue with us, and I simply point out the nearby law enforcement officer, who lurks close by. Choice: we confiscate it, you eventually get it back, or face the local closed airspace, flight over large events, no commercial local license, no waiver and no insurance criminal violations. These charges will add up to many thousands in fines, many automatic, permanent loss of equipment and possible jail time. Depends on the local laws in that country.
We are in the process of buying the latest flight ID tracking devices, but we seem to be doing quite well with hand-talkies and eyeballs. What goes up must come down. So In next years events, we will be electronically logging and passing to local CAA, violators. It is a safety hazard to the participants and a violation of their right to privacy and a severe hazard to our medivac helicopters and fixed wing traffic. Spread the word, we would prefer not to have this as a primary job, but
Sounds self imposedJust returned from AfrikaBurn. I am one of the Airspace Managers, for fixed wing, rotary wing and reluctantly function as the drone police. Just to let folks know, if they plan to attend any of the worldwide or US based Burning Man events there are specific rules, which prohibit any but our one or two permitted, possessing waivers, insurance and proper local licensing from FAA/CAA to film at the events. This year we started very aggressive policing of illegal drone flights. We captured 15 drones this year at AfrikaBurn alone, ranging from a Mavic 3 Pro to an assortment of 2's and minis. We do eventually give them back to the owners, but make it a colossal pain in the a$$ to teach them a lesson. A few argue with us, and I simply point out the nearby law enforcement officer, who lurks close by. Choice: we confiscate it, you eventually get it back, or face the local closed airspace, flight over large events, no commercial local license, no waiver and no insurance criminal violations. These charges will add up to many thousands in fines, many automatic, permanent loss of equipment and possible jail time. Depends on the local laws in that country.
We are in the process of buying the latest flight ID tracking devices, but we seem to be doing quite well with hand-talkies and eyeballs. What goes up must come down. So In next years events, we will be electronically logging and passing to local CAA, violators. It is a safety hazard to the participants and a violation of their right to privacy and a severe hazard to our medivac helicopters and fixed wing traffic. Spread the word, we would prefer not to have this as a primary job, but rather the occasional dufus to deal with.
No, it's pretty much what you've read about. I'm a repeat attenderWhen I looked up to see what Burning Man was I was shocked to find out that it was supposed to represent anti corporatism, anti establishment Ian, and freedom of expression. This thread makes it sound like just the opposite of what it started out as. The bigger it gets the more it seems to become what it is supposed to oppose.
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