Am I expecting too much?

Barny19 · Apr 23, 2017

Hi is something wrong or am I expecting too much?.

I have just sold my Yuneec Q5004k and purchased a Mavic however the video quality is nowhere near as good!!

The following clips were taken at 2.7k 24fps. one on Auto and the other with a manual shutter speed of 60.

No matter what video size, frame rate or shutter speed it always looks shaky when I pan even if I pan really slow!

Is it me??

<iframe src="2.7k 24fps auto from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
<p><a href=" ">2.7k 24fps auto</a> from <a href="David Lane">David Lane</a> on <a href="Vimeo: Watch, upload, and share HD and 4K videos with no ads">Vimeo</a>.</p>

<iframe src="2.7k 24fps m60 from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
<p><a href=" ">2.7k 24fps m60</a> from <a href="David Lane">David Lane</a> on <a href="Vimeo: Watch, upload, and share HD and 4K videos with no ads">Vimeo</a>.</p>

Spinylizard · Apr 23, 2017

Shouldn't stutter like this, it almost looks like the streaming footage from the device and not the SD card...

Jenee · Apr 24, 2017

Barny19 said:
Hi is something wrong or am I expecting too much?.

I have just sold my Yuneec Q5004k and purchased a Mavic however the video quality is nowhere near as good!!

The following clips were taken at 2.7k 24fps. one on Auto and the other with a manual shutter speed of 60.

No matter what video size, frame rate or shutter speed it always looks shaky when I pan even if I pan really slow!

Is it me??

<iframe src="2.7k 24fps auto from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
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You are panning a bit fast. I found by watching the screen I could slow the pan because it is hard to judge the pan rate unless you see it on the screen. I would also suggest changing to 30fps.

Kilrah · Apr 24, 2017

The whole point of using 24fps IS to make it look stuttery in the classic cinema way. So if you don't want that, shoot at 30.

smh · Apr 24, 2017

I had this problem too. I returned the mavic for a repair (DOA)

NickB · Apr 24, 2017

My raw panning footage is brilliant, however youtube rips the cr4p out of it and introduces stutters....not tried vimeo.

Hexagon · Apr 24, 2017

NickB said:
My raw panning footage is brilliant, however youtube rips the cr4p out of it and introduces stutters....not tried vimeo.

same scenario here, almost all of my videos are somehow worst after processed by YT.

Barny19 · Apr 24, 2017

Kilrah said:
The whole point of using 24fps IS to make it look stuttery in the classic cinema way. So if you don't want that, shoot at 30.

I've tried at 30 in fact all frame rates and it's still not good!

NickB said:
My raw panning footage is brilliant, however youtube rips the cr4p out of it and introduces stutters....not tried vimeo.

Is the raw footage good at 24 or 30fps?

Barny19 · Apr 24, 2017

smh said:
I had this problem too. I returned the mavic for a repair (DOA)

Did DJI admit there was a fault with it? Dave

NickB · Apr 24, 2017

I always use 30fps.

Barny19 · Apr 24, 2017

NickB said:
I always use 30fps.

Mine is no different on 30 fps it's still stuttery!

Cut.Aussie · Apr 24, 2017

I have a Yuneeq Q500 and now they Mavic and actually think they are both on par, not surmising as they both use the Amberella video processor chip. I agree that panning needs to be done very slowly, if you want to pan that fast use a ND filter.

djl61 · Apr 24, 2017

Barny19 said:
Hi is something wrong or am I expecting too much?.

I have just sold my Yuneec Q5004k and purchased a Mavic however the video quality is nowhere near as good!!

The following clips were taken at 2.7k 24fps. one on Auto and the other with a manual shutter speed of 60.

No matter what video size, frame rate or shutter speed it always looks shaky when I pan even if I pan really slow!

Is it me??

<iframe src="2.7k 24fps auto from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
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">2.7k 24fps auto</a> from <a href="David Lane">David Lane</a> on <a href="Vimeo: Watch, upload, and share HD and 4K videos with no ads">Vimeo</a>.</p>

<iframe src="2.7k 24fps m60 from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Have you tried using an ND filter to slow your shutter speed?

Barny19 · Apr 24, 2017

djl61 said:
Have you tried using an ND filter to slow your shutter speed?

Not yet but I have ordered some! The second video I manually slowed it down to 60 to show it was no different!

willhay555 · Apr 25, 2017

djl61 said:
Have you tried using an ND filter to slow your shutter speed?

How will less light help?

djl61 · Apr 25, 2017

willhay555 said:
How will less light help?

Less light will slow down the shutter speed, or allow you to slow down the shutter with out over exposure, allowing a slight blur (motion blur) that is more natural to the eye when panning. A fast shutter speed is good for stop action in still photos.
Also pan slow and steady to get that smooth cinematic look.
Here is a link to an excellent example. Look at 2 minutes into the video.

Barny19 · Apr 25, 2017

djl61 said:
Less light will slow down the shutter speed, or allow you to slow down the shutter with out over exposure, allowing a slight blur (motion blur) that is more natural to the eye when panning. A fast shutter speed is good for stop action in still photos.
Also pan slow and steady to get that smooth cinematic look.
Here is a link to an excellent example. Look at 2 minutes into the video.

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Wow that's a great video thanks for sharing it. I have tried slowing the shutter speed down to 60 and it didn't seem to make any difference! I'm going to try some more with it but I would expect that when in Auto I would get a usable video and I'm not! Thanks again Dave

djl61 · Apr 25, 2017

In auto you cannot control the shutter speed and if it is really bright the shutter speed will be too fast for the frame rate. The shutter speed should be 2x the frame rate. So for example at 24fps shutter should be set to 50 or 30fps shutter set to 60. This can only be set in manual mode. If the video is over exposed using these settings you will need an ND filter.
here is another good video.
Oh my name is Dennis not Dave lol.

Barny19 · Apr 26, 2017

djl61 said:
In auto you cannot control the shutter speed and if it is really bright the shutter speed will be too fast for the frame rate. The shutter speed should be 2x the frame rate. So for example at 24fps shutter should be set to 50 or 30fps shutter set to 60. This can only be set in manual mode. If the video is over exposed using these settings you will need an ND filter.
here is another good video.

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Oh my name is Dennis not Dave lol.

Thanks DENNIS lol. I have ordered the same Taco filters!!
I have tried filming again at 2.7k 30fps with a manual shutter speed of 1/60.

I have purposely panned fast to emphasise the issue and I'm sure something is wrong!!

What do you think?

Thanks... Dave
<iframe src="2.730:60 from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
<p><a href=" ">2.730:60</a> from <a href="David Lane">David Lane</a> on <a href="Vimeo: Watch, upload, and share HD and 4K videos with no ads">Vimeo</a>.</p>

Barny19 · Apr 26, 2017

Barny19 said:
Thanks DENNIS lol. I have ordered the same Taco filters!!
I have tried filming again at 2.7k 30fps with a manual shutter speed of 1/60.

I have purposely panned fast to emphasise the issue and I'm sure something is wrong!!

What do you think?

Thanks... Dave
<iframe src="2.730:60 from David Lane on Vimeo" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>
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">2.730:60</a> from <a href="David Lane">David Lane</a> on <a href="Vimeo: Watch, upload, and share HD and 4K videos with no ads">Vimeo</a>.</p>

ps its only really apparent in full screen!!