Believe it or not? DJI rep says they pay all tariffs.

[Douglas Peebles]

I ordered a Mini 4 Pro Package 2 Sundays ago and got it this Thursday. It came from China with no tariff. However the day after I ordered it the DJI site was saying out of stock for all Minis 4 Pros and most Mavics. I think getting anything from DJI will be a problem for awhile. Not sure what is going to mean for the Mavic 4.

 

[mavic3usa]

I ordered a Mini 4 Pro Package 2 Sundays ago and got it this Thursday. It came from China with no tariff. However the day after I ordered it the DJI site was saying out of stock for all Minis 4 Pros and most Mavics. I think getting anything from DJI will be a problem for awhile. Not sure what is going to mean for the Mavic 4.

Congrats on your Mini 4. However, this is part of the problem as well. People believe since the package doesn't says "All tariffs paid" all over the outside that there are NO tariffs. That's not entirely true. All this means is you likely didn't pay the full tariff bill.

Half of this country believes when a package from China arrives and they didn't pay the tariff, that means China must have paid the tariff. This is why it will never be clarified because it's important to have Americans believe China is paying and the US is not paying.

DJI has mentioned their "out of stock" conditions are not necessarily supply issues but possibly pricing issues as well. There's no way DJI is running out of Mini 4 drones but the uncertainty is probably causing them to take pause.

 

[Douglas Peebles]

My guess in DJI had a stash of the in a international customs warehouse at the airport that had already been cleared by customs. When those ran out they put the out of stock message on their site. This only affects USA at this point. There is no way DJI paid a tariff that is more than what I paid for the drone.

 

[msinger]

The tariffs in this case have no particular purpose. One day, the reason is to encourage manufacturing. The next day they are because there is a trade deficit. The next day, it goes away if you make a deal with some particular crypto currency. The next day, the tariff is postponed because the bond market is cracking. The next day, they are to encourage manufacturing.

You'll likely have to spend time digging deeper if you want to truly understand this topic better.

 

[Meta4]

You'll likely have to spend time digging deeper if you want to truly understand this topic better.

A little deeper digging, suggests that particular site might not be a reliable source.

 

[MS Coast]

You'll likely have to spend time digging deeper if you want to truly understand this topic better.

Yes, dig deeper. But skip the Youtube videos with no details about sources or background information and go straight to documented factual information.

 

[msinger]

Yes, dig deeper. But skip the Youtube videos with no details about sources or background information and go straight to documented factual information.

Unfortunately, you often won't find clear, well-documented facts laid out and ready to be spoon-fed to you. Even mainstream news rarely provides detailed sources or background context. To get that level of understanding, you'll need to do your own research. Furthermore, actually living in the country where these events are playing out is likely key in evaluating the "well-documented facts".

 

[MS Coast]

Unfortunately, you often won't find clear, well-documented facts laid out and ready to be spoon-fed to you.

Unfortunately, Youtube is rife with pablum that many users spoon up without questioning the accuracy.

Furthermore, actually living in the country where these events are playing out is likely key in evaluating the "well-documented facts".

Their US residency hasn't helped millions of Americans understand tariffs or claims that immigrants in Ohio are eating people's pets.

 

[Dave Pitman]

Unfortunately, you often won't find clear, well-documented facts laid out and ready to be spoon-fed to you. Even mainstream news rarely provides detailed sources or background context. To get that level of understanding, you'll need to do your own research. Furthermore, actually living in the country where these events are playing out is likely key in evaluating the "well-documented facts".

The purpose for the admins' tariffs that I listed have been given by the administration itself. Not by a third party. Are you saying that what they are saying cannot be relied upon as being based in facts?

 

[msinger]

The purpose for the admins' tariffs that I listed have been given by the administration itself

The purpose of the tariffs (according to the administration itself) has been documented here:

Regulating Imports with a Reciprocal Tariff to Rectify Trade Practices that Contribute to Large and Persistent Annual United States Goods Trade Deficits

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency

www.whitehouse.gov

Are you saying that what they are saying cannot be relied upon as being based in facts?

Not at all. What I am saying is that you'll likely need to do your own research to uncover facts that aren't well documented in any communications you are consuming.

Like @MS Coast found in this thread, a Chinese company is paying for 100% of the tariff on all DJI products, and that tariff is not applied to the retail cost of their products like many sources of DJI news were reporting.

 

[ben.boozer]

While it’s not a drone, check out the price of the Osmo 3. Up near $300 from 2 months ago. Costco had it for $599 and they were selling the mini. Now all traces of DJI have been removed from their website. Not a good sign.

 

[msinger]

Costco had it for $599 and they were selling the mini. Now all traces of DJI have been removed from their website. Not a good sign.

Or that could just be a sign that Costco no longer has stock available for those DJI products. I shop on Costco's website often, and I've seen (non-DJI) products come and go many times.

 

[MS Coast]

Like @MS Coast found in this thread, a Chinese company is paying for 100% of the tariff on all DJI products, and that tariff is not applied to the retail cost of their products like many sources of DJI news were reporting.

We don't know that DJI is paying tariffs on current sales. The inventory being sold may have been imported prior to imposition of the tariffs. We certainly don't that DJI will pay tariffs on future sales to the US.

You've made the point about tariffs being assessed on declared cost rather than retail price. But it doesn't negate the horrendous effect on DJI drone prices in the US after tariffs come into play on shipments. Even is the declared cost is only half the retail price, there's still an increase of 72.5% that must be paid by someone.

 

[msinger]

We don't know that DJI is paying tariffs on current sales.

You shared the relevant screenshots above. DJI clearly states that their prices include all costs of doing business, including tariffs. Essentially, the price listed in their store is the final amount you pay to have the product delivered to your doorstep.

But I suppose this was already apparent, as other Chinese companies are doing the same. For example, Bambu Lab (another Chinese company) recently raised the prices of their 3D printers significantly due to the tariffs they're now required to pay.

The inventory being sold may have been imported prior to imposition of the tariffs.

Certainly. But the sharp price increases on some products in the DJI store likely reflect the impact of new tariffs they're now paying. Whatever the case, it's clear that DJI has recently taken on a significant new business expense. And while we may be speculating on the exact cause, tariffs seem like the most reasonable explanation.

You've made the point about tariffs being assessed on declared cost rather than retail price. But it doesn't negate the horrendous effect on DJI drone prices in the US after tariffs come into play on shipments. Even is the declared cost is only half the retail price, there's still an increase of 72.5% that must be paid by someone.

Yes, this isn't great for anyone (China included). I'm not looking forward to increased costs.

 

[Dave Pitman]

a Chinese company is paying for 100% of the tariff on all DJI products, and that tariff is not applied to the retail cost of their products like many sources of DJI news were reporting.

This is not how tariffs work. Tariffs are collected at IMPORT, not at export. I recently bought a M3T from DroneNerds, one of the largest DJI dealers in the US. When the tariffs increased, the next batch of M3Ts that Drone Nerds listed (which are on backorder) increased ~75%. The price of the M3T did not increase in Canada. In this particular case, the US consumer is paying 75% more for the same product. No Chinese company is paying the tariff.

In the case of DJI's store. Just because the tariff is integrated into the price does not mean it has not been added. It's not that difficult to understand. If Bezos had a backbone, Amazon was going to list the price of the added tariff on all products on the site that incurred them. For some reason, the white house didn't like that idea.