Consequences of 120m limit removal

[pilifida]

Hello all,

Coming from an Air 2s, i bought a Mini 5 with RC2. After an update i have noticed the max height limit set to 120m. Now i have two questions:

- removing the height limit by requesting dji to do it what further implications have? Not necessarily legal, but regarding updates. I ve read on dji website that the drone will be limited to further C0 software updates. What does this exactly means?
- when i clicked on the QR code to file the application, dji asked me to complete my address so that they [?] could deliver me new stickers [in Romania?] and instructions to where to put those stickers and upload photos with them
- besides that, is there any hack that will remove the limit on the RC2? [Comfu and hussle free method]. I really downgraded from the Air series just to escape this class/legal hustle, and fly stuff without a headache, and now i am really disappointed as i wouldn.t have expected that height limit to be that harsh.

Ty!

 

[FarmerDrone]

Hello all,

Coming from an Air 2s, i bought a Mini 5 with RC2. After an update i have noticed the max height limit set to 120m. Now i have two questions:

- removing the height limit by requesting dji to do it what further implications have? Not necessarily legal, but regarding updates. I ve read on dji website that the drone will be limited to further C0 software updates. What does this exactly means?
- when i clicked on the QR code to file the application, dji asked me to complete my address so that they [?] could deliver me new stickers [in Romania?] and instructions to where to put those stickers and upload photos with them
- besides that, is there any hack that will remove the limit on the RC2? [Comfu and hussle free method]. I really downgraded from the Air series just to escape this class/legal hustle, and fly stuff without a headache, and now i am really disappointed as i wouldn.t have expected that height limit to be that harsh.

Ty!

Drone hacks has a software solution that i use for my mavic 3 and mini 3 pro. However, I don't think they have anything available for mini 5 at this point. It seems the newer dji drones are harder to hack.

 

[Kilrah]

Flying above 120m requires you to request autorization to do so in any case. You can't apply for that without a license so the limit for unlicensed C0 aircraft is 120m.

You can switch it to C1 to remove that, but then legally need to be licensed and request authotization when you want to fly >120m. Refer to your country's regulations.

 

[Cymruflyer]

Why would you need to be any higher than 120m anyway. As a pilot, I would not want drones up there being flown by people who have no regard for my safety or my passenger's safety by being up in my airspace. A drone is far too small to be able to be seen, when flying an airplane.

On the ground I can assure you that you have no idea of your actual altitude in relation to another aircraft being in the air near you. Yes you can see on the controller, but you have no idea of the altitude of the other aircraft, in your vicinity.

Wanting to be able to fly higher than 120m is a selfish, irresponsible request, not to mention dangerous, to pilots and passengers, flying in their aircraft up there. I fly a drone and a real aircraft, so I appreciate the reason for the 120m limit, and it is for our safety, not your pleasure.

 

[JeffreyS]

Why would you need to be any higher than 120m anyway. As a pilot, I would not want drones up there being flown by people who have no regard for my safety or my passenger's safety by being up in my airspace. A drone is far too small to be able to be seen, when flying an airplane.

On the ground I can assure you that you have no idea of your actual altitude in relation to another aircraft being in the air near you. Yes you can see on the controller, but you have no idea of the altitude of the other aircraft, in your vicinity.

Wanting to be able to fly higher than 120m is a selfish, irresponsible request, not to mention dangerous, to pilots and passengers, flying in their aircraft up there. I fly a drone and a real aircraft, so I appreciate the reason for the 120m limit, and it is for our safety, not your pleasure.

I understand your position. Safety is always #1. I often fly in remote areas of Utah and Arizona, launching from the bottom of deep canyons that can often be 500 to 1000 feet deep or more. I fly to the top plateaus which is basically ground level for the rest of the world. Then I'm only flying 100 ft or less AGL. But I need to get out of the canyon and the drone reads elevation from the launch point.

 

[Cymruflyer]

I understand your position. Safety is always #1. I often fly in remote areas of Utah and Arizona, launching from the bottom of deep canyons that can often be 500 to 1000 feet deep or more. I fly to the top plateaus which is basically ground level for the rest of the world. Then I'm only flying 100 ft or less AGL. But I need to get out of the canyon and the drone reads elevation from the launch point.

In such cases, I can understand the need to go higher. With that said, why not simply start on top at, as you put it, ground level. Which go down into a canyon that you will need to fly out of, in the first place? Seems a no brainer for me.

 

[JeffreyS]

In such cases, I can understand the need to go higher. With that said, why not simply start on top at, as you put it, ground level. Which go down into a canyon that you will need to fly out of, in the first place? Seems a no brainer for me.

Apparently you have not done too much exploring in the red rock country of the southwest. Many roads go through canyons, not all are the very tall and narrow slot canyons you may be envisioning. Some roads are along the bottom edges of tall plateaus. Ther are often no roads or access to the top levels. That's why exploring them with a drone is so much fun.

 

[Droning on and on...]

Flying above 120m requires you to request autorization to do so in any case. You can't apply for that without a license so the limit for unlicensed C0 aircraft is 120m.

You can switch it to C1 to remove that, but then legally need to be licensed and request authotization when you want to fly >120m. Refer to your country's regulations.

Of course, this brings up yet again the mismatch between height above takeoff and the actual rule which regulates height over the ground below the aircraft (AGL).

Too bad DJI hasn't ever implemented some sort of AGL capable system using internet available topographical data. Optionally, a pilot could choose to use this feature for an internet connected controller, defaulting to the current behavior (height over takeoff) when not connected.

 

[Matt W]

I understand your position. Safety is always #1. I often fly in remote areas of Utah and Arizona, launching from the bottom of deep canyons that can often be 500 to 1000 feet deep or more. I fly to the top plateaus which is basically ground level for the rest of the world. Then I'm only flying 100 ft or less AGL. But I need to get out of the canyon and the drone reads elevation from the launch point.

Are you the guy responsible for my AWESOME screen saver flying low over a canyon river? I’m jealous that would be so cool to fly that.
Your situation is very unique. Limitations are created for the masses. If you want to fly low in the canyons and above “ground level” in the same flight, can’t you just start at ground level and fly down into the canyon? How far can DJI drones fly negative altitude before chaos ensues? This is very interesting. I’ve flown below my takeoff point about 15’ or so without a problem. I wonder how far it can go?

 

[BossBob]

Are you the guy responsible for my AWESOME screen saver flying low over a canyon river? I’m jealous that would be so cool to fly that.
Your situation is very unique. Limitations are created for the masses. If you want to fly low in the canyons and above “ground level” in the same flight, can’t you just start at ground level and fly down into the canyon? How far can DJI drones fly negative altitude before chaos ensues? This is very interesting. I’ve flown below my takeoff point about 15’ or so without a problem. I wonder how far it can go?

Try looking at and reading post #7.

 

[Cymruflyer]

Apparently you have not done too much exploring in the red rock country of the southwest. Many roads go through canyons, not all are the very tall and narrow slot canyons you may be envisioning. Some roads are along the bottom edges of tall plateaus. Ther are often no roads or access to the top levels. That's why exploring them with a drone is so much fun.

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Ahhh, I understand in your situation. That would not be a situation that would cause a problem to GA aircraft. Some beautiful photos.

 

[JeffreyS]

Are you the guy responsible for my AWESOME screen saver flying low over a canyon river? I’m jealous that would be so cool to fly that.
Your situation is very unique. Limitations are created for the masses. If you want to fly low in the canyons and above “ground level” in the same flight, can’t you just start at ground level and fly down into the canyon? How far can DJI drones fly negative altitude before chaos ensues? This is very interesting. I’ve flown below my takeoff point about 15’ or so without a problem. I wonder how far it can go?

I don't know if I made the image you have. I'd have to see it!

In a canyon/plateau situation, I'm either at the bottom or at the top. I visit a lot of canyons. There are a few places where I launch on top and drop a few hundred feet into a canyon or below a bluff edge. The drone performs as normal but the elevations are shown in negative values. Here's a favorite example. The first pic shows the bluff I'm on top of (my vehicle is near the edge). Second one shows the kind of image I can make flying out and down and looking back at my launch spot, though I'm not very far down for this one.

 

[slup]

...How far can DJI drones fly negative altitude before chaos ensues? This is very interesting. I’ve flown below my takeoff point about 15’ or so without a problem. I wonder how far it can go?

As far as you want... chaos will never ensue due to a negative height, there isn't any hardware or software limit regarding this.