Mini 5 Pro is Broadcasting RID with ALL Batteries, Including the Mini 5 Pro Standard Battery

[Riptide]

Not at all. The purpose is identical. Identification of the operator.

They may have identical purposes but their vastly different functions makes it an apples to oranges comparison.

 

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They may have identical purposes but vastly different functions makes it an apples to oranges comparison.

I can't make any sense out of this statement.

 

[Riptide]

I can't make any sense out of this statement.

I added a “their” to make it more clear.

 

[Droning on and on...]

I added a “their” to make it more clear.

Doesn't really help.

How they function wasn't what was being discussed. The identifying capability is what we are debating, and that some here seem to have a big problem with with RID.

Kind of like when discussing transportation from A to B one notes that a sedan and a Bus are identical in achieving that end, and someone else comes along and says apples to oranges comparison because one runs on gasoline, the other on diesel. Irrelevant to the point being made.

I would have a big problem with RID if there were regular incidents of pilots being confronted by Karens, or thieves stealing their drones using RID. Since this isn't actually an issue, and there are no signs at all it's going to start to be, I'm as unconcerned about it as I am the license plate on my car.

 

[Riptide]

Doesn't really help.

How they function wasn't what was being discussed. The identifying capability is what we are debating, and that some here seem to have a big problem with with RID.

Kind of like when discussing transportation from A to B one notes that a sedan and a Bus are identical in achieving that end, and someone else comes along and says apples to oranges comparison because one runs on gasoline, the other on diesel. Irrelevant to the point being made.

I would have a big problem with RID if there were regular incidents of pilots being confronted by Karens, or thieves stealing their drones using RID. Since this isn't actually an issue, and there are no signs at all it's going to start to be, I'm as unconcerned about it as I am the license plate on my car.

If you can't see the difference in the privacy implications of a piece of metal with a random number on it attached to your car and a radio signal broadcasting your location to people that can't currently see you, then I'm not sure you're debating in good faith and worth going back and forth with. I'm out

 

[mavic3usa]

If you can't see the difference in the privacy implications of a piece of metal with a random number on it attached to your car and a radio signal broadcasting your location to people that can't currently see you, then I'm not sure you're debating in good faith and worth going back and forth with. I'm out

A. Not in good faith.

 

[BossBob]

Thread now ignored by me!

 

[SnitchingOnTrashBurners]

Mini 5 Pro is Broadcasting RID with ALL Batteries in the U.S., Including the Mini 5 Pro Standard Batter
I am using the $1100 Dronetag RIDER

Props to GadgetGuy, THANKYOU for your meticulous attention to detail. Your post has made me rethink purchasing an Air 3s. I now am considering a Mini 4 Pro. I think it's funny that you're using a more expensive piece of equipment than your Mini 5 Pro drone to detect for RID, and you single handedly forced DJI into admitting that they lied. This issue is important to people, that is why I read through your entire 7 page thread and I would like to make several points.

#1- DJI is a dishonest corporation. They did not "accidentally forget" to update their manual on such an important RID detail after spending millions in product development. They purposely released the Mini 5 Pro drone misleading US consumers into believing that they would have a sub 250 gram"ish" drone WITHOUT remote ID using the standard intelligent flight battery NON PLUS. After random people on a forum have proven DJI to be liars, how much more do you think the CIA knows about this Communist Party affiliated corporation?

#2-

When the Mini 4 Pro's weight exceeds 250g (e.g., by adding a light or using the Plus battery), its internal Remote ID system will become active.

My Mini4P with the addition of strobe lights and a landing gear tops out at 261 grams. Does that mean I'm RID broadcasting all the time?

Like other people, I find it unlikely that the Mini 4 Pro detects small weight changes on takeoff to enable RID and it's much more likely to simply turn on RID after detecting the intelligent flight battery PLUS. With that being said, I know it's very possible for DJI to enable RID based on takeoff weight. These drones use very sensitive gyroscopes and sensors. Can you possibly tape a brick to a Mini 4 Pro and confirm it does not broadcast RID with your Dronetag RIDER, using the standard intelligent flight battery? Are there any reports of Mini 4 Pro users using the standard battery who are put over the 250g limit due to strobes, detecting RID signals? Regardless of what the "Fly App" claims?

#3- Final and possibly the most important point

If you're operating within the rules and in a safe manner, you've got nothing to worry about. Including private parties using RID to find drone operators. The fears about Karens and thieves simply have not materialized.

The fears about identifying and finding and ultimately stopping bad actors have not materialized.

This blatantly false. The reality is, fears about sub 250 gram drones causing accidents have not materialized. You have no data to back your position. To the contrary, there are multiple examples of people flying drones operating within the law who are being harassed. If a drone was bothering me, I would download a drone detection app and track that person down. There are millions of people like me, the only difference being most of them don't know about drone detection apps YET because we are still on the frontier of drone technology. That is no reason to not have foresight, I see where this RID technology is going.

But having a licence plate number in the UK doesn’t give away the registered keepers details to any old Tom,**** or Karen, whereas RID will. Probably breaks UK data protection regulations in some way.

BossBob is correct. In America it's illegal to make anyone's license plate information public for obvious reasons. Making a license plate equivalency is illogical. Let me be clear, AFTER WHAT THOMAS CROOKS DID with a DJI drone broadcasting RID, I have no tolerance for any arguments of why my privacy should be invaded using a SUB 250 GRAM DRONE flying for recreation.

 

[Riptide]

Like other people, I find it unlikely that the Mini 4 Pro detects small weight changes on takeoff to enable RID and it's much more likely to simply turn on RID after detecting the intelligent flight battery PLUS.

I do agree with you, but I will point out that the original Mavic Mini can detect the extra weight of the prop guards and imposes a lower max altitude.

 

[SnitchingOnTrashBurners]

I do agree with you, but I will point out that the original Mavic Mini can detect the extra weight of the prop guards and imposes a lower max altitude.

Yes that says everything, we simply don't know how DSI's systems operate without tests. Obviously these drones can detect small weight changes, they have to compensate for wind and remain aerodynamic. DSI's manuals cannot be trusted, their representatives cannot be trusted. I'm even considering Potensic at this point with how dishonest DSI is, Potensic broadcasts RID regardless of weight but at least they are honest about it. Why can't DSI simply commit to guaranteeing US consumers firmware updates in 2026 if legally possible? They are giving all the signals of abandoning us.