There's another one going around saying all the flood scars on the planet is proof there was an earlier race of humans on Earth. He takes the Missoula Floods and makes it sound like some alien god was having a field day, even though the scarp lands and flood detritus is well explained. While these shows have interesting anomalies, some of the conclusions are quite whacko. "But the author has written many books!" ... Sure. more proof PT Barnum was right.
New Jersey Drone Sightings May Not Be Drones. By Professor Will Austin.
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There's another one going around saying all the flood scars on the planet is proof there was an earlier race of humans on Earth. He takes the Missoula Floods and makes it sound like some alien god was having a field day, even though the scarp lands and flood detritus is well explained. While these shows have interesting anomalies, some of the conclusions are quite whacko. "But the author has written many books!" ... Sure. more proof PT Barnum was right.
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I do not recall exactly what he said. But I do know the FAA made a very important admission during the RID court hearing in WA DC. A judge asked the lawyer will RID provide law enforcement with any information regarding the drone or the pilot not already available using existing electronic equipment and the answer was no. Ask yourself then what is RID for? Why the secret meeting with Amazon, Google, FBI and other select VIPs at Langley? BTW DJI turned on Mavic drone broadcast in 2017 through an update without anyone's knowledge or permission. It was broadcasting drone owner's flight information and their email address as a VERGE magazine reporter documented in video below. Seems like a massive search and seizure potentially violating the 4th Amendment doesn't it? Now, if you "voluntarily" put a "beacon" on your drone and call it RID even if the signal only travels 20 feet, it completely changes the analysis. I do not know how anyone could think this situation in New Jersey will not affect our right and ability to fly drones recreationally.
I went back and read the article which you, @eEridani, referenced back in post#180. It is interesting and well-written, and it reiterates a lot of things that @mavic3usa keeps preaching. It actually is worth reading!
I post this article as a reference point prior to the current November on NJ wave: but folk worried about the US being overrun by drones should read it. It'll make you even more anxious.
Here's What NORAD's Commander Just Told Us About The Langley AFB Drone Incursions
December's rash of mysterious drone flights over Langley Air Force Base has changed how the U.S. plans to defend against such threats domestically.www.twz.com
There's no denying that "drones" are being used to great effect in the Ukraine war, leading everyone to seriously rethink they're defensive strategies. So when some dufus [or many dufii?] keep flying their hobby drones into restricted airspace over military bases, it justifiably generates cause for concern, as is eloquently described in that referenced article.
Despite all those reasonable and credible things said by Air Force Gen. Gregory M. Guillot, why why why did they then need to ruin everything by also including this next bit in the article?
Everything before and after this bit in the article makes sense. But this quote from Mark Kelly instantly triggers all my B/S alarms.
First off, "other drones followed, one by one". That's not "a formation of drones", as is so often reported elsewhere. One by one sounds a lot more like the "airport landing light syndrome" of seeing bright lights, one by one, lining up on approach to an airport.
Furthermore, 20ft long, 100mph, at 4,000ft, all "roughly" estimated, is a very interesting combination of numbers. For the purposes of this illustration, perhaps Kelly overestimated the speed, and it was maybe only "roughly" 75mph and not 100mph.
Like with so many other reported sightings on news media showing only FAA-mandated nav lights blinking in a dark sky, perhaps Gen. Mark Kelly has difficulty accurately estimating the scale of objects at night.
If you scale up the perspective of a 20ft length, 75mph, and 4,000ft high "drone", by a factor of x7.5 each, you would instead be seeing a perfectly normal full-sized aircraft "roughly" 150ft long, speed 560mph, at 30,000ft altitude.
And, just by some freak coincidence, THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME! Even over Langley Air Force Base! Day & Night! Check it on FlightRadar24, or ADSBexchange.com.
Forced to choose between a normal aircraft vs. a 20ft drone powered by anti-gravity technology, I'll choose the one that's most likely to be real. It'd take a pretty convincing argument to prove anything else.
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But most aircraft in these images are at a much lower altitude: patterns and approaches are generally planes passing through 5,000 feet descending at 500 fpm. Low enough they can be heard quite clearly in the videos, some are probably even lower. Departing commercial is 2,500-4,500 fpm. So they are in that 5,000 foot gray zone even shorter times, thus you don't see many of these "drones" leaving the area.
[snip] the angular size/distance drawing
Check those flight tracker websites. In addition to the constant Eastern Seaboard flight traffic, there are plenty of low-flying aircraft in the area around Langley, as well as lots of flights landing and departing from Norfolk International Airport.
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However, earlier this month, Air Force Gen. Mark Kelly told The Wall Street Journal that at least one of the drones was “roughly 20 feet long and flying at more than 100 miles an hour, at an altitude of roughly 3,000 to 4,000 feet. Other drones followed, one by one, sounding in the distance like a parade of lawn mowers.”
It doesn't have to trigger alarms. There are personal drones that are about that size for sale today. Jetson and Pivotal are just two of them. And if I were a company marketing one I might even do some promotional videos using drones to fly around my product as it flies through the air. You can get approval to fly drones at altitudes above 400' for these sorts of things. So "at least one" is sort of like saying aliens exist because there is one photo out of 5,000 that remains unexplained. It's quite the leap.
So in context, I'd also place Kelly as susceptible to rumor mills. He might have read accurate reports, but immediately thinks aliens or drone invasion or some ill intent.
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That's apparently the (fantasy) world you live in. In the (real) world I live in impossibilities are endless. Like the prospect a genetic alteration could be engineered to give the recipient the ability to see protons with the naked eye.
But then, ya gotta know some quantum and subatomic particle physics to know why this is impossible.
Same with antigravity.
Ignorance is bliss. Greer can only fool those lacking the requisite basic understanding of how gravity works. Look up General Relativity and spacetime metric... good place to start.
If we're going to go down that road, let me remind that we don't "know" everything about the universe.
We hypothesize and then run math to see if we can "prove" the hypothesis.
The flaw is the math is based on what we know and it doesn't always add up, even though the "numbers" do.
Remember string theory?
Anyhow, we know there are anti particles. We know there are anti waves and we know there are anti forces.
One could draw a conclusion that for every attraction there's also a repellant. In fact, there's some science to support that theory.
So, we could theorize that, just as there is gravity, there is anti gravity. Being able to contain and control it is something we have no idea how to do "today" (assuming it exists). Or, for the purposes of this rebuttal, do we?
Furthermore, 20ft long, 100mph, at 4,000ft, all "roughly" estimated, is a very interesting combination of numbers. For the purposes of this illustration, perhaps Kelly overestimated the speed, and it was maybe only "roughly" 75mph and not 100mph.
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China unveils new aerial cluster drone for swarm attacks - Asia Times
Chinese scientists have developed a new type of war drone that can rapidly multiply midair, a tactical shock and awe phenomenon against potential
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Drones spotted near at least 17 military bases located next to Chinese-owned land in US
A flurry of drone sightings have been reported close to military bases adjacent to Chinese-owned farmland.
nypost.com
@Berf, the USA have similar drones, as does Iran, and many other countries.
Why list only China's various drones? Are you trying to claim it's those Chinese drones causing all the New Jersey "drone" sightings? If so, why not include a photo of all the various types of Chinese drones produced by DJI and Autel, etc?
What's your point?
Why list only China's various drones? Are you trying to claim it's those Chinese drones causing all the New Jersey "drone" sightings? If so, why not include a photo of all the various types of Chinese drones produced by DJI and Autel, etc?
What's your point?
Back in the 70's I worked with a Chinese gent working here on a work-visa. His primary roll in Chinese society was to come over here and buy up property. He worked a 9-5 engineering job, and then went home to his 5 to 9 position with the Chinese real-estate company.
Yes, even the feds knew what he was doing, but the typical American was very happy to take his cash in exchange for their property. Had the feds stepped in to block the Chinese from buying up America I'd wager more than one American Patriot would have held up there guns and demanded a revolt.
So yeah, plenty about how the Chinese behave can be criticized, but what about those yanks accepting the Chinese money?
How is this relevant to drones in NJ? It isn't.
Yes, even the feds knew what he was doing, but the typical American was very happy to take his cash in exchange for their property. Had the feds stepped in to block the Chinese from buying up America I'd wager more than one American Patriot would have held up there guns and demanded a revolt.
So yeah, plenty about how the Chinese behave can be criticized, but what about those yanks accepting the Chinese money?
How is this relevant to drones in NJ? It isn't.
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I can understand why the general public is fearful of drones. This is an image that sticks in the mind of a cruel, soulless instrument of death. How incredibly irresponsible of the federal government to be coy and play games with people's minds and pocketbooks.China unveils new aerial cluster drone for swarm attacks - Asia Times
Chinese scientists have developed a new type of war drone that can rapidly multiply midair, a tactical shock and awe phenomenon against potential
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