New Jersey Drone Sightings May Not Be Drones. By Professor Will Austin.

[Zbip57]

Denial is a psychological defence mechanism that psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud described as the refusal to accept an uncomfortable fact or reality.

On the other hand, Occam's razor is, to paraphrase, the simplest explanation for any phenomenon is usually the best explanation.

If you see a light in the sky that you can't immediately recognize, why would you assume it's a "drone" and not a normal aircraft?

If you cannot definitively identify the light, you cannot deny the possibility that it could be any or all of the following;

• a Martian spaceship,
• a star,
• a satellite,
• a normal aircraft,
• a "drone", or
• anything else.

Some of those are more likely to be the correct choice, others are unlikely. The light is most likely to be something common, something that's normally there all the time, but some people will always choose to go with the most unlikely option, definitely a Martian spaceship.

If, as shown in most media reports, it has lights like a normal aircraft, moves and sounds like a normal aircraft, then it most likely is a normal aircraft.

Why are people seeing those lights as "drones" instead of normal aircraft?

If it's a solid light that appears to be not moving, it might be anything including;

• a hovering alien "orb",
• landing lights of an aircraft coming toward you,
• a "drone",
• a streetlight on a pole at the end of your driveway, or
• anything else.

Repeated sightings of unidentified lights does not make it a "fact or reality" that it's a hovering alien "orb". I'm not denying the far-fetched possibility that it might be an "orb", just that it's a highly unlikely possibility as there are many simpler and far more likely explanations.

Someone may yet someday produce incontestable convincing proof that all of those (as yet) unidentified lights in the sky are, in fact and reality, actual Martian spaceships.

If that ever happens, it certainly will be an "uncomfortable" awakening for the skeptics among us. But, until then I'm sticking with Occam's Razor and healthy denial.

 

[eEridani]

Denial is a psychological defense mechanism that psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud described as the refusal to accept an uncomfortable fact or reality. It is a way to protect the mind from anxiety-inducing realities or uncomfortable truths by rejecting them. It can manifest in many ways, such as denying the severity of an addiction or refusing to acknowledge the end of a relationship or (the existence of mysterious drones). OK, I admit I added the last part.

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Oddly, that exactly describes your inability to accept the fact people are reporting airplanes as drones.

 

[mavic3usa]

Or, drones in real life:

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[Zbip57]

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Lots of "interesting" things to see there.

It appears as though the tall building was targeted twice in the same spot. In the opening scene of the video showing the approaching drone, you can see there's already previous damage in the same area.


There's a clearer view at 2:47 in the video.


The drone impact then causes significantly more damage over a wider area, but still very near the first hit.


It seems as though a specific room was targeted. I wonder who lived there, or who was meeting there.

In any case, it's a bit of stretch to call this a "9/11 Style Attack". There's no similarity other than a building was hit.

 

[Bad Santa]

Maybe it was trying to catch Putin with one of his prostitutes.

 

[Droning on and on...]

Maybe it was trying to catch Putin with one of his prostitutes.

That requires a barnyard

 

[moldorf]

geeeeezuzzz this thread is completely whacked

 

[Wanbli]

I'm not walking anything back.



My point was, airliners fly overhead all the time. Air traffic control ensures they're stacked line-astern on final approach with sufficient space between them to allow the landing plane sufficient time to clear the runway before the next one arrives to touch down. Other traffic may be joining the pattern on downwind, or base leg, or orbiting farther and higher in a racetrack holding pattern awaiting their turn.

Anyone living near an airport can see that every day in broad daylight. Nobody watching this ever comes away with bizarre theories about how all those planes must instead be Iranian drones, or military drones searching for missing nuclear bombs (sheesh).

Those same planes fly in the same patterns at night, with the required flashing strobe lights and navigation lights mandated by the FAA. But, instead of seeing them as the same normal airliners, suddenly everybody is reporting seeing "drones" flying in patterns, and they're coming up with all sorts of bizarre ridiculous explanations and conspiracy theories.

Forget your "people are alarmed" proclamations. You should be more alarmed that your supposedly reputable news media outlets are reporting swarms of drones 10-20ft in size, while showing video of what is clearly a normal full-sized airliner!

Suddenly every flashing light, or "glowing orb", must be a drone.

Show me some actual videos, with documented time and location, of genuine drone sightings showing swarms of fifty SUV-sized drones! They don't exist. It's always a picture of some blurry, shaky, blob of light, that doesn't show anything conclusively identifiable as a drone.

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[Zbip57]

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Huh?

Are you posting that because you actually believe any of that to be true? Or are you posting that as an illustration of the sorts of loony conspiracy theories being floated out there?

That video is more that an hour long, but you only need to listen [because again the video doesn't actually show anything] to the bit when the "expert" first begins talking at 6 minutes in.

"There's a covert rogue military component that is behind all these drone sightings."

He goes on to tell us all about how they've developed anti-gravity technology and teleportation systems.

 

[Zbip57]

Trying to steer this back to the topic of what people are seeing in New Jersey, let me divert to Oregon instead. Because why not, eh?

I posted a longer 28min video way back in post#144 where you get to listen to all of the ATC radio messages of the Oregon incident. At one point a not-involved pilot asks what I think is a pertinent question, "Are you seeing any of this on radar, or is it just pilot reports?"

Of course there's nothing on radar to confirm anything that's being reported by the pilots involved. The medivac pilot mentions he got a hit on his TCAS display, but that was most probably the airliner shown on the ADSB track displayed in the video. TCAS only works if aircraft are carrying active transponders.

At one point the Air Traffic Controller asks the medivac pilot to shoot some video of the mysterious lights he's seeing, and then gives the pilot a telephone number so he can forward the video to the controller. Sure thing, he can do that. Later another not-involved pilot, who has been listening in on the radio chatter, asks the controller whether he can share that video with others? Sure thing, he can do that. That controller tells the pilot he'll leave his phone number at the tower of the pilot's destination, and he can call him back from there to get a copy of the video.

So where is this video now??? All we ever get is "testimony" and hearsay, with no actual evidence showing "drones", or aliens, or anything other than normal aircraft, stars, and planets.

 

[Droning on and on...]

"There's a covert rogue military component that is behind all these drone sightings."

He goes on to tell us all about how they've developed anti-gravity technology and teleportation systems.

Thank you @Zbip57, heaps of praise, for providing the lazy among us the service of unearthing these gems without having to watch it.

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

 

[Droning on and on...]

So where is this video now??? All we ever get is "testimony" and hearsay, with no actual evidence showing "drones", or aliens, or anything other than normal aircraft, stars, and planets.

And this is the sort of thing that causes public mistrust. It's likely nothing more than situational incompetence – those contacted are directly connected so would have to do some minor investigation just to identify the players, contact them, etc. and no one's been assigned to do this.

Or, there could be a conspiracy, and something's going on. Failing to address a real incident like this with specifics is what causes so much suspicion.

 

[Zbip57]

Thank you [...] for providing the lazy among us the service of unearthing these gems without having to watch it.

I tried to watch it, I really tried, hoping it might eventually get more interesting. But it's painful.

He goes on and on, stating he has evidence to prove everything, but can't show us any of it because, ya know, it's all secret, eh.

He insists this "covert rogue military" group has developed interstellar capabilities to teleport anything instantly around the galaxy... Sheesh.

Meanwhile an un-elected alien [from South Africa], best buddies with the soon-to-be-again leader of the most powerful nation on Earth, is investing bazillions to develop and launch and blow up test versions of his Starships to Mars, when it would be so much simpler to just use this existing teleportation technology.

 

[Zbip57]

It's likely nothing more than situational incompetence – those contacted are directly connected so would have to do some minor investigation just to identify the players, contact them, etc. and no one's been assigned to do this.

There are many different videos of that same Oregon incident posted in much-shorter and edited YouTube versions and media reports. That 28min version is the first one I've seen that provides the entire ATC radio discussion. But it's too long for anyone with the attention span of a gnat to sit through the whole thing.

I've seen numerous media interviews with the medivac pilot sharing his side of the story, but never a single mention of the fact that he shot video to share with the Air Traffic Controller and other pilots.

 

[Droning on and on...]

He insists this "covert rogue military" group has developed interstellar capabilities to teleport anything instantly around the galaxy... Sheesh.

The biggest problem with claims like this is they don't pass the greed test.

Any such technology would be so lucrative it is an absolute certainty it would leak – in a credible, verifiable way – with numbers of people involved. It always does.

The Manhattan Project was no secret. The Germans knew a lot, and were racing the US to make a bomb.

 

[Chip]

And this is the sort of thing that causes public mistrust. It's likely nothing more than situational incompetence – those contacted are directly connected so would have to do some minor investigation just to identify the players, contact them, etc. and no one's been assigned to do this.

Or, there could be a conspiracy, and something's going on. Failing to address a real incident like this with specifics is what causes so much suspicion.

"Failing to address a real incident like this with specifics is what causes so much suspicion."

 

[mavic3usa]

The video that I have seen presents the drone events as being likely 1 of about 6 different scenarios. One of them (probably among the least likely one) is that of a covert rogue military element and personally, I find that highly unlikely. I have yet to see any video where the presenter is solely claiming that is what's happening here and nothing else is plausible (unless it's part of another larger video). It's always presented as a possibility and while I don't agree with it, you will get these types of responses when you leave the door open to anything. It's part of goal to confuse, anger, and distract the target and I see a lot of distraction going on here will people getting obsessed with a magic cover rogue military that only a handful of people believe; spend your time wisely. But I bet we'll get a few people that just won't stop talking bout the "cover rogue military element" and it's probably because they partially believe it in themselves.

 

[Chip]

At a congressional hearing last week, Robert Wheeler, Assistant FBI Director, was asked how the FBI could say there was no threat if they haven’t been able to account for all sightings. “There is nothing known that would lead me to say that but we just don’t know and that’s the concerning part.” Robert Wheeler, Assistant FBI Director, testifying before Congress.

Huh?

 

[Chip]

Oddly, that exactly describes your inability to accept the fact people are reporting airplanes as drones.

Please show me where I denied that people are reporting airplanes as drones.

 

[Wanbli]

Huh?

Are you posting that because you actually believe any of that to be true? Or are you posting that as an illustration of the sorts of loony conspiracy theories being floated out there?

That video is more that an hour long, but you only need to listen [because again the video doesn't actually show anything] to the bit when the "expert" first begins talking at 6 minutes in.

"There's a covert rogue military component that is behind all these drone sightings."

He goes on to tell us all about how they've developed anti-gravity technology and teleportation systems.

I don't know what to believe, there's so much misinformation out there! But I do know that SOMETHING IS GOING ON! The government doesn't want us to know, so they throw crap at the wall to see what sticks.
In this case the "expert" is Dr. Steven Greer. He's very well respected in the UFO area. He has been an advisor to many high level government and military people from all over the world for more than 30 years. Dr. Steven Greer - End Illegal Secrecy, Begin a New Civilization. - Dr. Steven Greer
Do your due diligence. He never said they developed antigravity tech, he said they reverse engineered it from crashed UFOs.
So, in this world we find ourselves, anything is possible. Choosing to accept or reject the possibilities is up to the reader.