4G dongle Mavic 4 in EU

[yorkie9668]

Could you please confirm whether there is already a fee for this, or point me to the source where you found this information?

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The fee with OFCOM is £75 a year

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/manage-your-licence/aeronautical/guidance/guidance-uas-licence-old.pdf?v=356817

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[Darkabaz]

I asked DJI yesterday and they said they currently had no plans for 4G wireless use for the Mavic 4 Pro in Europe, they also said that the 04+ is so strong that you should never need a wireless connection with line of sight, I do know that here in the UK we now need a licence costing £75 a year and a sim card designed for UAS use, so it is pointless now, luckily I sold my 4G dongle 2 with my Air 3S

This is not true. Dongle compatibility comes in EU (eu country) for sure. Just to be clear: it is currently in the final phase of testing.

the 4g option was there in the first FW version, but its deactivated in the latest FW because EU tests and EASA clearity is not finished yet.

Source: dji.

 

[yorkie9668]

This is not true. Dongle compatibility comes in EU (eu country) for sure. Just to be clear: it is currently in the final phase of testing.

I am only repeating what DJI told me yesterday, and that slot on the rear of the RC Pro 2 is possibly for upgrades to the forthcoming O5 system

So no I am not wrong, maybe DJI are!
Who knows, please tell me where the dongle would go in the Mavic 4 Pro?
Even if you fitted it into the RC Pro 2 that would only work in the controller, that would not give the Mavic 4 Pro cellular capabilities

 

[Darkabaz]

I am only repeating what DJI told me yesterday, and that slot on the rear of the RC Pro 2 is possibly for upgrades to the forthcoming O5 system
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So no I am not wrong, maybe DJI are!
Who knows, please tell me where the dongle would go in the Mavic 4 Pro?
Even if you fitted it into the RC Pro 2 that would only work in the controller, that would not give the Mavic 4 Pro cellular capabilities

It is allround clear that the customer service not getting any future updates in case of tech. They simply don't know the information.
Spoke to DJI tech engineer this week and they are working on it at the moment. It's in final phase now. Within a few weeks there is some news.

The dongle 2 / 3 could be fitted in the bottomside of the m4 drone

 

[yorkie9668]

It is allround clear that the customer service not getting any future updates in case of tech. They simply don't know the information.
Spoke to DJI tech engineer this week and they are working on it at the moment. It's in final phase now. Within a few weeks there is some news.

The dongle 2 / 3 could be fitted in the bottomside of the m4 drone

DJI are between a rock and a hard place, they want us to have freedoms, but different nations want Line of Sight to be the holy grail, I can see 4G/5G only being available for emergency services, an everyday UAS pilot whether for hire or hobbyist does not need to fly any further than they can see their drone, so DJI in my opinion won't be pushing a cellular device, I wait to be proven wrong!

 

[Darkabaz]

DJI are between a rock and a hard place, they want us to have freedoms, but different nations want Line of Sight to be the holy grail, I can see 4G/5G only being available for emergency services, an everyday UAS pilot whether for hire or hobbyist does not need to fly any further than they can see their drone, so DJI in my opinion won't be pushing a cellular device, I wait to be proven wrong!

4G additional transmission is always saver then only Occusync transmission. Sometimes, with lot of signal - the tranmission between rc and drone is already losing after 300 meter. That is too less. With 4G you still have clear communication which will help with safer flights.

 

[yorkie9668]

4G additional transmission is always saver then only Occusync transmission. Sometimes, with lot of signal - the tranmission between rc and drone is already losing after 300 meter. That is too less. With 4G you still have clear communication which will help with safer flights.

I agree with you, I enjoyed having the safety that the 4G dongle 2 brought, but like I said it is down to "Line of Sight" rules, the Dongle 2 made it possible to send your drone to dangerous distances up to the batteries depletion, Aviation authorities all over the world don't want this

 

[Darkabaz]

I agree with you, I enjoyed having the safety that the 4G dongle 2 brought, but like I said it is down to "Line of Sight" rules, the Dongle 2 made it possible to send your drone to dangerous distances up to the batteries depletion, Aviation authorities all over the world don't want this

Ofcourse, it is. The cowboy guys needs to have police at the door - ofcourse.
But having always a good connection gives me a calm feeling. And if you use your head and just keep the rules in mind, No issue at all.

 

[Felix le Chat]

I agree with you, I enjoyed having the safety that the 4G dongle 2 brought, but like I said it is down to "Line of Sight" rules, the Dongle 2 made it possible to send your drone to dangerous distances up to the batteries depletion, Aviation authorities all over the world don't want this

In theory, having a control signal using a digital FHSS link that leverages a widespread hardware network of dedicated comms relays is leaps and bounds better that Lightbridge or Ocusync - something I'm certain will be integrated into commercial drones (as in the ones owned and operated by big commercial businesses).

I think we're 'proof of concept' beta-testers who will soon be priced out of the service with the introduction of specific and expensive licenses as well as by crippling 'service charges' levied by the big Telecom service providers.

 

[yorkie9668]

In theory, having a control signal using a digital FHSS link that leverages a widespread hardware network of dedicated comms relays is leaps and bounds better that Lightbridge or Ocusync - something I'm certain will be integrated into commercial drones (as in the ones owned and operated by big commercial businesses).

I think we're 'proof of concept' beta-testers who will soon be priced out of the service with the introduction of specific and expensive licenses as well as by crippling 'service charges' levied by the big Telecom service providers.

I agree, as already it is now £75 a year for the UAS aerial licence, there was no requirement when I bought the Dongle 2 last year, now there is, what that £75 covers is beyond me, and we also now need a Drone Sim card, whatever that is compared to any mobile sim is beyond me again, they seem to find a niche where they can add charges for anything, especially when they see that so many enjoy the hobby!

 

[Suren]

Does the Dongle 2 have to be installed in the Mavic 4 Pro or in the RC 2 Pro?

If you want the RC Pro2 to have internet, then install the Dongle 2 in there, it will not work on the Mavic 4 Pro outside of China